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lilbawler2001 05-21-2012 07:16 PM

Deportations Create Quandaries
 
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Democrats run the risk of hurting their election prospects and discouraging Latino voter turnout in November unless the White House can better implement its policy to deport only illegal immigrants with criminal backgrounds, some Democrats and pro-immigration groups believe.
“I think that there are a large number of voters, both immigrant and Latino voters, that when they first think of the president, they don’t think of additional Pell Grants, or expansion of health care, or revamping of Wall Street, or a fairer tax [system]. They think of someone they knew, either personally or related to them, or a neighbor or friend, who has been deported. And that is what first and foremost comes to mind,” Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said last week.
Frank Sharry, executive director of left-leaning immigration advocacy group America’s Voice, said the failure to properly implement the policy has wreaked havoc on the Latino community and — along with a weak economy and the unmet expectation of immigration reform — could discourage them to turn out to vote for Democrats.
“For low-propensity voters, it doesn’t take much to keep them at home rather than get them turned out,” Sharry said, adding that it is too early to tell whether the issue will affect Latino voter turnout.
Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who has championed a Latino community priority — the DREAM Act — in the Senate, agreed that the disconnect between the White House and Immigration and Customs Enforcement could hurt Democrats in the fall, but he defended the president.
“It may,” Durbin said. “We can’t let it happen, because there is no question that this president and this administration have worked harder to pass the DREAM Act, to move forward on immigration than any other administration. I know [Latinos] are discouraged, and they should be; the system is disappointing and heartbreaking on many days, but we just have to keep working on it.”
Part of the frustration among Hispanic activists is the fact that some illegal immigrants who arrived in the U.S. as children and who consider themselves Americans are getting caught up in ICE’s deportations. Those children in some cases would benefit from the DREAM Act, which would provide a path to citizenship for some illegal immigrant children who go to college or join the military.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) indicated in a recent interview on Univision’s Al Punto that he, too, wants the White House to do a better job of implementing the policy.
“We’ve done some extremely good things, especially as it relates to the ‘dreamers’ to make sure they are not taken away in the middle of the night,” Reid said. “There’s a lot more that can be done. There’s more the president is going to do administratively, and that should happen fairly quickly.”
Durbin and Gutierrez have been among the leading voices in Congress on immigration issues and the “go-to” offices to help kids facing deportation. Both have pushed the DREAM Act, which passed the House in 2010, but came up short in the Senate.
Durbin said that he is “in frequent contact” with the White House as they seek to better implement the roughly year-old policy giving prosecutorial discretion to ICE and to Customs and Border Protection agents.
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iDream 05-21-2012 07:31 PM

Re: Deportations Create Quandaries
 
work permit and a license. That's all I ask for!

freshh. 05-21-2012 08:02 PM

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“We’ve done some extremely good things, especially as it relates to the ‘dreamers’ to make sure they are not taken away in the middle of the night,” Reid said. “There’s a lot more that can be done. There’s more the president is going to do administratively, and that should happen fairly quickly.”
Short of an EO halting all deportations, except in the cases of dangerous/wanted criminals, there's really nothing he can do to make up for the garbage that has been going on for the last year. DREAMers and noncriminal aliens are still being deported. Families are still being torn apart and he's done nothing but continue to say that bipartisanship is the answer to immigration reform and DREAM Act.

Tacvbo 05-21-2012 08:38 PM

Re: Deportations Create Quandaries
 
Just stopping the deportations won't simply help the cause if we remain undocumented. Stop the deportations via giving us a fkn work permit.

freshh. 05-21-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tacvbo (Post 256238)
Just stopping the deportations won't simply help the cause if we remain undocumented. Stop the deportations via giving us a fkn work permit.

I agree, but can we expect more than a halt to deportations "fairly quickly"?

dtrt09 05-21-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by freshh. (Post 256236)
Short of an EO halting all deportations, except in the cases of dangerous/wanted criminals, there's really nothing he can do to make up for the garbage that has been going on for the last year. DREAMers and noncriminal aliens are still being deported. Families are still being torn apart and he's done nothing but continue to say that bipartisanship is the answer to immigration reform and DREAM Act.

And that is they key, isn't it? If you are rooted in this country - ie, have lived here for decades - and have only immigration violations, the only thing stopping the White House from directing the DHS Secretary and DOJ from halting deportation is the White House itself. Prosecutorial discretion is not working because to grant it, you have to stop prosecuting.

That's prosecutorial discretion and that is why Obama's DOJ and DHS, both of which have issued hundreds of thousands of deportation orders to people who fit the prosecutorial discretion criteria, are scrambling to backtrack on their records. It is not a coincidence that the 9th circuit decided to start asking DHS and DOJ their plans for those they have ordered deported. Judge Fisher on that panel previously held that deportations cannot be suspended based on future law "which may never come to pass". This administration went back and reviewed the deportation orders they had already issued and conveniently included the people they had already ordered deported, but whom have not a criminal record, as "fugitives" so that they not be included in this discretion. They have created criminals and enforcement priorities out of all the people who were already trapped in the system when they came into office.


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