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IamAman 01-10-2015 02:26 PM

House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigration
 
But please, continue to heckle the president as if he's the bad guy here.

http://news.yahoo.com/house-gop-take...-politics.html

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WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans announced plans Friday to take broad aim at President Barack Obama's immigration policies and eliminate protections for immigrants brought illegally to this country as kids.


Boehner survives conservative challenge, re-elected U.S. House speaker Reuters
The legislation to be voted on next week satisfies demands from the most conservative lawmakers and goes further than the approach initially discussed by some House Republicans. That approach would have targeted only the executive actions Obama announced in November that provided deportation protections for millions of immigrants in the country illegally.

Conservatives in the GOP caucus pressed leadership to go further and also shut down a 2012 program that has granted work permits to more than 600,000 immigrants brought here illegally as kids. Ending the program would eventually expose those young people to deportation. Other changes would undo Obama directives to immigration agents aimed at limiting deportations of people with no significant criminal record.

"The American people were expecting the leadership to step up to the plate and not just make some symbolic gesture in trying to address what the president did back in November, but try to go a step further," said Rep. Robert Aderholt, R-Ala. "That's what our language does and that's what at the end of the day I think will garner a lot of support among our colleagues."

But the outcome won't have the support of a handful of moderates in the caucus, including lawmakers representing heavily Latino districts.

"We've got to deal with immigration, immigration as a whole. Reforming our system across the nation," said Rep. Jeff Denham, R-Calif. "Just picking on the children that came here through no fault of the own I think is the wrong way to start."

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House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, departs a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill in Washington, Fri …
The vote will come on a $39.7 billion spending bill to keep the Homeland Security Department running past February. Lawmakers said the goal is to keep the agency running on full funding — an especially critical goal in the wake of the Paris terror attacks — while at the same time blocking Obama's administrative moves on immigration.

Obama's directives in November gave temporary relief from deportation to about 4 million immigrants in the country illegally, mostly those who'd been in the country at least five years and have kids who are citizens or legal permanent residents.

The earlier program, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, applied to certain immigrants brought here illegally as kids, known as "Dreamers" by their supporters.

The immigration fight is coming to a head as Congress wraps up its first week of work for the year after convening under full Republican control. Republicans deliberately kept the Homeland Security Department on a short leash when they passed a full-year spending bill for all other government agencies late last year, so that they could deal with Obama's immigration moves with more Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Yet the dynamic does not appear to have shifted much.

Even though Republicans now command a larger House majority, the biggest in decades, giving Speaker John Boehner more room to maneuver, leadership still catered to the most conservative lawmakers in crafting the immigration bill, as happened several times in the last Congress. Indeed, some of the same conservatives who voted against Boehner for speaker in a failed overthrow attempt this week were cheering loudest Friday at the shape the legislation was taking.

"I liked what I heard," said Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, after a closed-door meeting to discuss the legislation.

"I really appreciate the process of allowing all of us to have some input," said Gohmert, a frequent critic of House Republican leaders. "One of the things that has really been lacking for the last eight years is having more input like we've finally gotten in this bill, so this is a good thing."

And even with the Senate under GOP control, minority Democrats still exercise considerable sway, and there's no guarantee senators will agree to the House legislation. Even if they did, Obama could very well threaten to veto it. That leaves the ultimate outcome of the legislative dispute unclear.

At the same time, Democrats say Republicans are courting electoral disaster in the 2016 presidential election by passing legislation that could alienate many Latino voters.

"It's nothing short of breathtaking that their first move coming out of the gate in 2015 is to attack immigrants and their families," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America's Voice, a pro-immigrant advocacy group.

Erik1421 01-10-2015 04:17 PM

Re: House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigratio
 
They have full knowledge that the President would have to sign that...

Demise 01-10-2015 05:37 PM

Re: House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigratio
 
If I was the president I'd attach the previous congress's CIR bill to the veto notice which would read:
The executive actions undertaken by myself and the Department of Homeland Security will stay until a more permanent solution similar to the one proposed last congress but never voted on by the house (see attached document) is given to me by congress. Until then this, and any such bills challenging the executive actions without a permanent solution will be unconditionally vetoed.

IamAman 01-11-2015 01:03 PM

Re: House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigratio
 
The Republicans' playbook is to make the Democrats look like obstructionists. Of course they leave out the part where Democrats are trying to fix problems and Republicans are just about destruction.

dreamact1982 01-11-2015 01:22 PM

Re: House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigratio
 
Interestlingly Republicans it seems are attaching this on purpose, they dont want it to pass

The coming Republican failure on immigration

Republicans in Congress are nearly unanimous in opposing President Obama's unilateral executive action on immigration. Nearly all want Congress to overturn the president's edict. But how to do it? Republicans have two basic options, and as the time to act nears, it appears they are preparing to choose the one more likely to fail.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/th...rticle/2558488

Laterlater 01-11-2015 02:18 PM

Re: House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigratio
 
"The vote will come on a $39.7 billion spending bill to keep the Homeland Security Department running past February."

The move in its very nature is calculatingly sinister. It ties the discontinuation of DACA/DAPA to the fiscal budget of the DHS (i.e. its continuing operation).

Someone is going to have to relent.

I suspect it was done by the leadership and Boehner to appease the base of anti-immigrants in their party. The measure it calculated to fail, as the more moderate Republicans will not want to see the DHS funding entangled with controversial legislation, and therefore be more inclined to agree with Democrates on voting on a "clean" bill without the language.

To my mind, it will probably be stripped at the final hour.

freshh. 01-11-2015 04:09 PM

Re: House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigratio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laterlater (Post 550845)
"The vote will come on a $39.7 billion spending bill to keep the Homeland Security Department running past February."

The move in its very nature is calculatingly sinister. It ties the discontinuation of DACA/DAPA to the fiscal budget of the DHS (i.e. its continuing operation).

Someone is going to have to relent.

I suspect it was done by the leadership and Boehner to appease the base of anti-immigrants in their party. The measure it calculated to fail, as the more moderate Republicans will not want to see the DHS funding entangled with controversial legislation, and therefore be more inclined to agree with Democrates on voting on a "clean" bill without the language.

To my mind, it will probably be stripped at the final hour.

There are not 60 votes in the Senate for this bill. All of this is a huge waste of time, tax payer dollars, and more useless Republican posturing.

Sadly, this is all that is going to continue to happen for the next 2 years.

IamAman 01-11-2015 06:02 PM

Re: House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigratio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freshh. (Post 550848)
There are not 60 votes in the Senate for this bill. All of this is a huge waste of time, tax payer dollars, and more useless Republican posturing.

Sadly, this is all that is going to continue to happen for the next 2 years.

Let them get it out of their system...I just don't want to hear any immigrant looking for immigration reform say "they're all the same" or "The Democrats didn't do anything". The Republicans ARE doing something - they want to send you back to where-ever your parents brought you from.

Laterlater 01-11-2015 08:59 PM

Re: House GOP's Homeland Security Plan Will Undo Obama Executive Action On Immigratio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freshh. (Post 550848)
There are not 60 votes in the Senate for this bill. All of this is a huge waste of time, tax payer dollars, and more useless Republican posturing.

Sadly, this is all that is going to continue to happen for the next 2 years.

That or to overcome the veto that is all but certain.


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