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dreamer01100101 02-22-2017 03:00 PM

DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else
 
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"In the enforcement memo, it's described that DACA recipients are excluded from this enforcement priority, but in reality we know that's not the case. Any DACA recipient who falls within any of these categories of suspected crime, reasonable suspicion to be in certain circumstances, is still going to be subjected to removal," Eaton said. "The DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else, under the broad language of this memo."
http://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local...in-immigration

For anyone who has read the memos from yesterday, it's obvious they are purposefully ambiguous. They "leave DACA alone", yet we all fall under the 7th priority for a removable alien (in the judgment of an
immigration officer, otherwise pose a risk to public safety or national security). This is up to the discretion of the agent. It'd be really hard to prove otherwise if he accused you of something you didn't do. IMO, this is what we should be looking at:

Quote:

They're defining a removable alien as anyone that an ICE agent has any reason to believe -- it's a very low standard -- might be in the country undocumented."
Further, I am not sure if anyone has noticed section I, No Private Right of Action, in the memo. It essentially states they can use your DACA info to deport you, whenever they decide to do so.

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I. No Private Right of Action
This document provides only internal DHS policy guidance, which may be modified,
rescinded, or superseded at any time without notice. This guidance is not intended to, does not,
and may not be relied upon to create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at
law by any party in any administrative, civil, or criminal matter. Likewise, no limitations are
placed by this guidance on the otherwise lawful enforcement or litigation prerogatives of DHS.

We should be cognizant that while we do still have our work permits, as it stand, our deportation protections are easily stripped if the agent feels like it. There's no guidance for the agent so it'll be really hard to fight like we are seeing it happening for the dreamer in Seattle.

libertarian1776 02-22-2017 03:03 PM

Re: DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else
 
yeah if you're a moron, you're vulnerable.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-22-2017 03:04 PM

Re: DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else
 
We are low level priorities. This is how it has been for the past 4 years...

Always to the discretion of DHS.

The Memo specifically excludes DACA. No change.

You can always find a way to get deported even if you have a green card.

2MoreYears 02-22-2017 03:05 PM

Re: DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 605805)
yeah if you're a moron, you're vulnerable.

Exactly!

dexter 02-22-2017 03:11 PM

Re: DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else
 
You guys are something else, way to treat a fellow dreamer.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-22-2017 03:29 PM

Re: DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else
 
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Originally Posted by dexter (Post 605815)
You guys are something else, way to treat a fellow dreamer.

We are trying to calm people down.

Reality is that we have never been safe. There are always risks. Your risk of being deported are about the same as dying in a traffic accident right now.

moto 02-22-2017 03:48 PM

Re: DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 605805)
yeah if you're a moron, you're vulnerable.

+1. Stay out of trouble and no one is gonna come looking for you.

Lambo Mercy 02-22-2017 05:19 PM

Re: DACA recipients are as vulnerable as anyone else
 
If you do nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about


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