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BeansDreamtoo21 02-02-2018 08:04 PM

Who is our ally?
 
In your opinion who is going to help us? What party?

IamAman 02-02-2018 08:13 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
What party? Is this even up for debate?

BeansDreamtoo21 02-02-2018 08:16 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 685466)
What party? Is this even up for debate?

Well yeah do you really trust the democrats to fight for us? And not use us for reelections?


Or do you trust republicans to use us for their racist agenda limiting immigration and fight as hard as the tax bill with the excuse of helping us

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-02-2018 08:18 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
Which party actively tries to make our lives difficult ?


How does logic work for some of your dreamers

1) don't fight for us and actively try to make life difficult for us
2) don't fight for us

"Option 2 is the worse!!"
"Both options are the same!!!!"

cooltalker 02-02-2018 08:20 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
Obama was our only ally. The only reason anybody wants something done for us is because he enacted DACA. It put us in the spotlight. Otherwise, the talks right now would have been very different. Trump and Republicans would have pushed for draconian bills and pushed for deportations for illegals including us.

Actually, Judge Alsup is also an ally. He gave a chance to renew, regardless of whether renewals go through or not, he did try to help us.

BeansDreamtoo21 02-02-2018 08:28 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltalker (Post 685469)
Obama was our only ally. The only reason anybody wants something done for us is because he enacted DACA. It put us in the spotlight. Otherwise, the talks right now would have been very different. Trump and Republicans would have pushed for draconian bills and pushed for deportations for illegals including us.

Actually, Judge Alsup is also an ally. He gave a chance to renew, regardless of whether renewals go through or not, he did try to help us.

Someone mention that the judge who gave dacaers a chance to renew has connections with Pelosi or something like that maybe that judge ordered that to help democrats stall it till elections ? Making the daca issue not as urgent?

BeansDreamtoo21 02-02-2018 08:29 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 685468)
Which party actively tries to make our lives difficult ?


How does logic work for some of your dreamers

1) don't fight for us and actively try to make life difficult for us
2) don't fight for us

"Option 2 is the worse!!"
"Both options are the same!!!!"

Well I dislike both parties but I'm tired of democrats just fucking with us

cooltalker 02-02-2018 08:46 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeansDreamtoo21 (Post 685472)
Someone mention that the judge who gave dacaers a chance to renew has connections with Pelosi or something like that maybe that judge ordered that to help democrats stall it till elections ? Making the daca issue not as urgent?

You guys are thinking too much and you just want a person to blame. So you guys choose to blame the judge who actually gave a chance to renew.

In any case, you guys are free to think what you want. But I personally feel that Dems will not concede to anything (regardless of the Judge's decision) and Republicans will not pass anything without getting those concessions. I believe we would have expired with no hope, but at least now I have hope that our renewals might go through.

BeansDreamtoo21 02-02-2018 08:50 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltalker (Post 685483)
You guys are thinking too much and you just want a person to blame. So you guys choose to blame the judge who actually gave a chance to renew.

In any case, you guys are free to think what you want. But I personally feel that Dems will not concede to anything (regardless of the Judge's decision) and Republicans will not pass anything without getting those concessions. I believe we would have expired with no hope, but at least now I have hope that our renewals might go through.

I'm not trying to blame them there is no point. I just don't suffer from battered woman syndrome. If they don't concede to anything they were bullshiting us since the beginning when they were saying let's find common ground.

DreamerSD23 02-02-2018 08:52 PM

Re: Who is our ally?
 
Which party implemented DACA?

Which party ended DACA?

No debate brah.


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