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Swim19 02-14-2018 09:27 AM

Trump readies blame game if Senate fails on DACA
 
Senate hasn't started voting on amendments and the blame game begins!

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President Donald Trump is refusing to budge from his immigration framework, and he and his allies on Capitol Hill are laying the groundwork to heap the blame on Democrats if the Senate fails to reach a deal this week.

In Trump’s view, according to administration officials and GOP senators, he’s already compromised beyond where he and his staff felt comfortable by offering 1.8 million young undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship. And if Democrats want to step up this week and sink the president’s proposal, that will be on them, they said.

“It seems to me this ought to be a pretty sweet bipartisan deal to solve the problem,” Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) said of the president’s proposal. If Democrats reject it, “I think we’re looking pretty good from a PR standpoint.”
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The standoff means the Senate’s immigration debate is likely destined for failure absent a course correction from Trump, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) or Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). Such a result would be a major blow to Dreamers facing the threat of deportation as well as the institution, where dozens of senators in both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution.
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What instantly angered Schumer and other Democrats were the president's proposed cuts to legal immigration, not the 1.8 million eligibility figure or the border wall money. Some Republicans were upset about it, too.

“Probably it falls short” of 60 votes, said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) of the president’s plan. “We’re not going to cut legal immigration by a third.”

The senators writing Trump’s plan into legislative text, including Cornyn and Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), have included some conservative provisions that the president didn’t explicitly seek in his framework and could be dropped as an olive branch to Democrats. But those items are unlikely to sway the opposition.

And Republican leaders are not signaling they will break with the president. McConnell says he supports Trump’s plan, and Trump opposes a narrower bill sought by some senators.

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) has attempted to write a plan that mirrors some of Trump’s, but drops the cuts to legal immigration. Flake has been sparring with Trump for more than a year, making it difficult to see the president supporting his revisions.



“The president has never said that we need to cut legal immigration by half over time. That’s more a Tom Cotton-David Perdue construct,” Flake said, referring to Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.).
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“He’s shown a lot of flexibility,” said Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.). “It’s almost like people are fighting to get to no." If Democrats vote no, "they’ve let down a lot of DACA people.”

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) said the White House’s current stance undercuts Trump’s deal-making reputation.

“That’s not how you make a deal. You don’t say take it or leave it,” McCaskill said.


But Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.), who has met with Trump this year to talk about immigration, doubted that the president is as dug in on his plan as he's letting on.

“I believe there’s some flexibility there. I really do,” Jones said. “The president really wants to get a deal done.”

Jones and McCaskill would not say how they would vote on the president’s plan. Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) said he would oppose it because providing billions in border money for the executive branch means Congress is “not doing our job as the legislative branch.”

If Tester doesn’t support it, it’s hard to see the minimum of nine Democratic votes that Trump’s framework would need to pass the Senate. Indeed, the finger-pointing over a scenario in which no proposal can clear the Senate is already underway.

"What is so appalling and revealing is Democrats claim to care so deeply about this issue but don’t have a bill," said a White House official.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...me-game-407629

HappyAlways10 02-14-2018 09:37 AM

Re: Trump readies blame game if Senate fails on DACA
 
Democrats are choosing future US citizens brothers, sisters and their kids chain migration green cards OVER Dreamers citizenship NOW. Its now Dreamers VS future immigrations (chain migration, Lottery green cards). Dems will be happy for DACA as long we have work permits no issue to them. I don't think from inside they care if we ever become citizens. Remember 2010? Some Dems voted against Dream act otherwise we would have been citizens by now :(

ECW 02-14-2018 09:45 AM

Re: Trump readies blame game if Senate fails on DACA
 
Anyone for the BRIDGE Act or Flake’s 3 year patch? We all knew this is what it would come down to.

Smooth 02-14-2018 09:48 AM

Re: Trump readies blame game if Senate fails on DACA
 
Cryin' Chuck shouldn't have given up leverage. Fucking idiot. I blame him.

Swim19 02-14-2018 10:21 AM

Re: Trump readies blame game if Senate fails on DACA
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 689739)
Cryin' Chuck shouldn't have given up leverage. Fucking idiot. I blame him.

Democratic leadership messed up, but that doesn't mean the GOP should be given a pass for being jerks about it. The GOP could decided that even though they have all the leverage to be realistic about what the Democrats will concede and get the DREAMer/Border Security issue resolved. Of course, I realize the current GOP will never think that way.

JJ Glo 02-14-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 689762)
Democratic leadership messed up, but that doesn't mean the GOP should be given a pass for being jerks about it. The GOP could decided that even though they have all the leverage to be realistic about what the Democrats will concede and get the DREAMer/Border Security issue resolved. Of course, I realize the current GOP will never think that way.

GOP would never do that. That would be helping the Dems in the upcoming midterms. DACA is a Dem issue. If DACA fails, the blame will be on them for failing to "compromise" Trump might not get his wall but the GOP will campaign on the promise to get Trump his wall if they win more seats.

Swim19 02-14-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 689775)
GOP would never do that. That would be helping the Dems in the upcoming midterms. DACA is a Dem issue. If DACA fails, the blame will be on them for failing to "compromise" Trump might not get his wall but the GOP will campaign on the promise to get Trump his wall if they win more seats.

I know. I’m frustrated with both parties, and tired of bills passing that aren't popular and bills that are, not passing. Money in politics has ruined this country.

JJ Glo 02-14-2018 10:59 AM

Re: Trump readies blame game if Senate fails on DACA
 
With DACA currently reinstated, there's now even more reason for Dems and Reps not to compromise and wait until 2019.

Smooth 02-14-2018 11:06 AM

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Whitehouse issued statement.

Can't be anything less than the 4 piklaes. Thank you Democrats for giving up all leverage.

OMEG 02-14-2018 11:07 AM

Re: Trump readies blame game if Senate fails on DACA
 
Everybody is to blame and that includes orange peel


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