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ECW 02-21-2018 06:55 AM

Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
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A must-pass, roughly $1.3 trillion spending bill may be the last chance before the midterm elections for the two parties to achieve their top immigration-related priorities: protecting Dreamers from deportation or build President Donald Trump’s border wall. Whether they can succeed after their repeated failures is anyone's guess, but they're expected to try
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One possibility would be a scaled-down compromise that would extend protections for hundreds of thousands of young immigrants for an additional three years in exchange for three years of wall funding. That would punt the decision on a permanent fix past Trump’s first term as president.
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Whatever Congress produces is likely to be far narrower than the proposals that the Senate just rejected. Those include a bipartisan deal as well as Trump’s plan to cut legal immigration in return for border funding and a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million young immigrants.
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Senate Democrats say they’re not eager to engage in talks with the White House for a temporary solution to the DACA problem. They believe their compromise offers last week — including $25 billion in border wall funding in exchange for offering DACA-eligible immigrants a pathway to citizenship — were more than generous, and that it’s on Republicans now to produce a plan.
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But Republicans think they may have more leverage in the future if Democrats don't deal now. Some GOP leaders and White House officials are confident they’ll get the best deal by waiting out Democrats. They predict the Supreme Court will overrule lower courts that put a temporary halt on Trump’s decision to rescind DACA on March 5.
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White House officials and some Republicans believe waiting for court action would offer them an advantage over Democrats by forcing them to capitulate to Trump’s DACA demands or face a public relations crisis by not compromising. But the political positioning is not being taken kindly by some moderates pushing for a more immediate solution.
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Rather than risk a crisis-driven immigration confrontation, Flake believes Democrats will take his deal, or some version of it, if it is clear there is no better option. Right now, Republican Sens. John Thune of South Dakota, Rob Portman of Ohio and Jerry Moran of Kansas are pushing a plan to provide Trump $25 billion in border money in return for making the DACA program permanent, albeit with no path to citizenship.
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Republicans working on the issue said if Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) can agree on a narrow DACA deal to attach to the omnibus, the Senate and House could follow suit. That would require McConnell to move away from Trump’s plan and Schumer to allow a temporary DACA reprieve, a big if. And no such talks are currently underway.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...s-trump-417427

Adrian2145 02-21-2018 07:06 AM

Re: Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
I can say almost guarantee all congressional leaders will not vote against the debt ceiling because it would be worse than a shutdown. It impacts the whole economy and livelihoods of the American people.

Smooth 02-21-2018 08:37 AM

Re: Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
Guys, we need to pressure Flake's office and make this shit renewable.

Trump is the wildcard here.

JJ Glo 02-21-2018 09:11 AM

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If they're going to pass something through Congress, it might as well be something permanent, not some temporary extension bullshit. It should be what Trump and Schumer had already agreed to, a pathway to citizenship with full border security funding.

MIdreamer 02-21-2018 09:27 AM

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Right now, Republican Sens. John Thune of South Dakota, Rob Portman of Ohio and Jerry Moran of Kansas are pushing a plan to provide Trump $25 billion in border money in return for making the DACA program permanent, albeit with no path to citizenship.
$25 billion for permanent DACA, hahahah, the Democrats got outplayed so bad.

ECW 02-21-2018 09:38 AM

Re: Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
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The White House’s early preference going forward is a new bill sponsored by GOP Sens. John Thune of South Dakota, Jerry Moran of Kansas and Rob Portman of Ohio that would provide $25 billion in exchange for permanently extending DACA, an administration official said on Friday. Enrollees would have to reapply every two years under that plan.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...-senate-415856

2MoreYears 02-21-2018 09:45 AM

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Their freaken ego is the problem. Both sides want to fix the problem but only if they get the credit. Pretty shameful.

AleiaTheEnchanted 02-21-2018 10:11 AM

Re: Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
We don't want an extension we want permanent one. But since we are not the one submitting the bills we've got no choice but to accept what they offer. I really hope Flake changes the extension to a permanent one. Maybe DACA to LPR for the time being?? Forget about citizenship until Trump leaves office.

Sorrybrah 02-21-2018 10:18 AM

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Another chance for republicans to embarrass Chuck S.

dtrt09 02-21-2018 10:47 AM

Re: Coming soon: Another showdown over Dreamers in Congress
 
Democrats offered $25 billion, much much more thsn the White House needs for the wall in exchange for the Dream Act.

The White House says we take your offer because is good, but we want to take our offer back and only help much much fewer people.

So the Democrats offer is awesome - so much so that Republicans are demanding to waste the $25 billion dollars of taxpayer money but as the moral trash that they are, they want to take Dream Act off the table.

Nope. Democrats need to say 'You made a deal; we were generous and you'll have to hold your end of the bargain". Force them. They have a shitstorm coming with Daca, gun reform, health care, etc.

There is no excuse for them not to protect all Dreamers. They need to resubmit their bills for a vote.


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