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Red neck 03-08-2018 03:57 PM

Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
 
Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
© Greg Nash
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday that there’s no need to tackle immigration or gun reform as part of a sweeping spending package poised for a vote as early as next week.

“None of these bills has to be part of the omnibus,” Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol. She’s urging the Republicans to bring those issues to the floor as separate, stand-alone bills — a strategy GOP leaders have repeatedly refused.

Pelosi last month had led the opposition to a similar budget deal, not because of what it contained, but to protest the refusal of GOP leaders to commit to a separate vote shoring up the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which President Trump is attempting to terminate.

Immigration rights activists are pressing the Democrats to use their leverage on the omnibus vote — which is among the last must-pass bills of the year — to insist on provisions protecting the so-called Dreamers, young immigrants brought to the country illegally as kids. Some gun reformers are urging a similar tactic to force action on new firearm controls as a response to the recent shooting massacre at a Florida high school.

But Democratic leaders, eying big gains in November’s midterms, have been cold to that strategy. Senate Democrats had been blamed for a government shutdown over DACA earlier in the year, and there seems to be little appetite among the party’s brass to risk another round of political blowback over issues as contentious as immigration and guns.

Pelosi has given no indication she’s planning another protest surrounding the omnibus vote. And on Thursday, she suggested there won’t be one. The sticking points in the omnibus are not related to immigration or guns, she said, but to conservative provisions restricting abortion rights.

“The omnibus bill has other problems in it,” she said.

“There’s suggested language that we could never live with — could never live with — even if Dreamers never existed. So the bill may have problems in other respects, whether it’s women’s right to choose [or] defunding Planned Parenthood,” Pelosi added.

“Maybe we’ll meet next week [and] some of these will have gone away. Let’s hope. But for the moment, we have a lot of work to do to iron these [issues] out.”

The future of DACA has been uncertain since September, when Trump rescinded the Obama-era program and gave Congress six months to come up with a legislative fix. That deadline passed on Monday, but GOP leaders — struggling to get 218 Republicans behind a DACA package favored by conservatives — have yet to bring anything to the floor.

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has said repeatedly that he plans to protect the Dreamers, setting his own deadline of the end of the month.

“We clearly need to address this issue in March; I’ll just leave it at that,” Ryan said last month.

Yet Rep. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican who’s the lead sponsor of a bipartisan DACA bill being promoted by Democratic leaders, said Thursday that he has “no updates” on the immigration debate and that he’s unfamiliar with Ryan’s plans.

“I don’t know if that’s my understanding [of what Ryan said],” Hurd said, referring to the end-of-March timeline.

“I don’t know what you’re referring to.”

The gun reform debate hasn’t gone even that far. While House Republicans are planning to vote next week on legislation to safeguard schools — a direct response to the Parkland, Fla., shooting — the package puts no new limits on the sale or ownership of firearms — limits that are fervently opposed by the powerful gun lobby.

Rep. Steny Hoyer (Md.), the Democratic whip, said he’s aware of no opposition to the bipartisan school safety bill. But he also hammered GOP leaders for their refusal to consider popular gun reforms like universal background checks, which enjoys overwhelming support from voters of all stripes.

“The fact that can't get a bill supported by 97 percent of the American people on the floor is absurd,” Hoyer said Tuesday, referring to a recent Quinnipiac University poll.


Still, Hoyer seems to be on the same page as Pelosi when it comes to the question of whether Democrats should use their rare leverage to force consideration of contentious issues like guns and DACA.

“I think the omnibus needs to be considered on its own merits,” Hoyer said.

Copper 03-08-2018 04:01 PM

Pelosi: “No Need For DACA On Spending Package”
 
Quote:

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday that there's no need to tackle immigration or gun reform as part of a sweeping spending package poised for a vote as early as next week.

"None of these bills has to be part of the omnibus," Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol.
She's urging the Republicans to bring those issues to the floor as separate, stand-alone bills - a strategy GOP leaders have repeatedly refused.

Pelosi last month had led the opposition to a similar budget deal, not because of what it contained, but to protest the refusal of GOP leaders to commit to a separate vote shoring up the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which President Trump is attempting to terminate.

Immigration rights activists are pressing the Democrats to use their leverage on the omnibus vote - which is among the last must-pass bills of the year - to insist on provisions protecting the so-called Dreamers, young immigrants brought to the country illegally as kids. Some gun reformers are urging a similar tactic to force action on new firearm controls as a response to the recent shooting massacre at a Florida high school.


But Democratic leaders, eying big gains in November's midterms, have been cold to that strategy. Senate Democrats had been blamed for a government shutdown over DACA earlier in the year, and there seems to be little appetite among the party's brass to risk another round of political blowback over issues as contentious as immigration and guns.

Pelosi has given no indication she's planning another protest surrounding the omnibus vote. And on Thursday, she suggested there won't be one. The sticking points in the omnibus are not related to immigration or guns, she said, but to conservative provisions restricting abortion rights.



"The omnibus bill has other problems in it," she said.

"There's suggested language that we could never live with - could never live with - even if Dreamers never existed. So the bill may have problems in other respects, whether it's women's right to choose [or] defunding Planned Parenthood," Pelosi added.
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Pianoswithoutfaith 03-08-2018 04:06 PM

Re: Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
 
We only get a few chances so we might as well support the best one. If some shitty daca solution is anchored with the omnibus bill there goes the last time this issue gets congress time

BeansDreamtoo21 03-08-2018 04:20 PM

Re: Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
 
Omg im so Shocked by this.

JJ Glo 03-08-2018 04:34 PM

Re: Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
 
We're screwed until 2020 at least. Even if by the unlikely chance that Democrats take both houses of Congress, Trump is still President.

IbelieveIcanFly 03-08-2018 04:38 PM

Re: Pelosi: “No Need For DACA On Spending Package”
 
Yes. Total complete abandonment. Hope it covers aged out dreamers.

IbelieveIcanFly 03-08-2018 04:40 PM

Re: Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
 
Republicans troll us democrats play us. Time to get out of this place.

BeansDreamtoo21 03-08-2018 04:43 PM

Re: Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
 
After this i cant believe how some people still think democrats want a solution for us. Holy shit im having a meltdown i have foam in my mouth right now as i type this

Alfredo93 03-08-2018 04:59 PM

Re: Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
 
Nahhh just support Democrats for the midterms and then 2020, and then 2022, and maybe we can get something done with president Bernie Sanders in 2024.

JJ Glo 03-08-2018 05:03 PM

Re: Pelosi: No need for guns, DACA in spending package
 
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Originally Posted by BeansDreamtoo21 (Post 696708)
After this i cant believe how some people still think democrats want a solution for us. Holy shit im having a meltdown i have foam in my mouth right now as i type this

You might have rabies.


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