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vivace 09-01-2008 05:03 PM

Worried
 
My mom keeps asking, "What if McCain wins? What would you do?"

It's making me so worried.
What if McCain wins??

Youguysareawesome 09-01-2008 05:36 PM

Re: Worried
 
::roll:: DREAM stands a better chance of passing the senate and house if McCain is the president. How quickly we forget, McCain has and still does support DREAM.

We just deal with the how to get around the "secure the borders" BS that even he knows is ridiculous, because you can't secure the borders without first fixing the legal immigration system. No matter what he does to "secure the borders", it's not going to stop undocumented immigration. He knows this and will pass some bills that put up a wall and then move on to passing real reform his second year. Obama would try to go for DREAM his first year and it's anyone's guess if he can muster up enough votes to get it through congress.

It's by no means the end of the world. Remember, CIR passed the senate under republican control.

I still haven't decided if McCain or Obama are better for DREAM.

RahmanIV 09-01-2008 06:18 PM

Re: Worried
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vivace (Post 106817)
My mom keeps asking, "What if McCain wins? What would you do?"

It's making me so worried.
What if McCain wins??


You can spend all the nights from now till Nov. 4th piss worried about that but there is nothing we can do except get out the vote for Obama. After all that work, it still comes down to the night of Nov. 4th. So just take comfort in the fact that this is how democracy works in all its glory and troubles.

So don't worry about something thats out of our control and keep doing well in whatever you're doing.

K-Man 09-01-2008 09:11 PM

Re: Worried
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Youguysareawesome (Post 106818)
::roll:: DREAM stands a better chance of passing the senate and house if McCain is the president. How quickly we forget, McCain has and still does support DREAM.

We just deal with the how to get around the "secure the borders" BS that even he knows is ridiculous, because you can't secure the borders without first fixing the legal immigration system. No matter what he does to "secure the borders", it's not going to stop undocumented immigration. He knows this and will pass some bills that put up a wall and then move on to passing real reform his second year. Obama would try to go for DREAM his first year and it's anyone's guess if he can muster up enough votes to get it through congress.

It's by no means the end of the world. Remember, CIR passed the senate under republican control.

I still haven't decided if McCain or Obama are better for DREAM.

You didn't even make it until the next post to contradict yourself.

Vivace, in the event that McCain wins, it's not the end for Dream. Those of us that support Obama, is because he's a "better" choice for Dream, not necessarily the "only" choice. One should note that Obama has openly supported the Dream Act time and time again, whereas McCain plays more of a political game to shy away from it. For some us, that's not the chance we want to take, since that's what Bush did. Also, there are other factors that could derive from Obama's success, such as Sen. Durbin gaining political leverage.

ECW 09-01-2008 09:54 PM

Re: Worried
 
As much as I don't want him to win, I am not worry one bit about McCain when it comes to the Dream Act if he wins. It just means that we are going to have to do a whole lot more to get it to pass the House and Senate, because I really don't think he is going to do much on the Hill to get it pass but he will sign it if it reaches his desk.

Ianus 09-01-2008 10:32 PM

Re: Worried
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Youguysareawesome (Post 106818)
It's by no means the end of the world. Remember, CIR passed the senate under republican control.

I still haven't decided if McCain or Obama are better for DREAM.

I was actually in DC when that CIR bill passed & can definitely tell you that the Senate Republicans knew that the bill wasn't going to be considered in the House,hence why a good amount of Republicans voted for it.

I believe that an Obama Presidency is still better for Dream act for numerous reasons,but the number 1 is because I believe him & Durbin would be extremely close allies.I'm also not sure a McCain presidency can even get a bill considered in what is likely to be a democratic Congress come November.

alex1234 09-01-2008 11:27 PM

Re: Worried
 
worry about getting enough senate seats.

HOPEFULDREAMER 09-01-2008 11:36 PM

Re: Worried
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alex1234 (Post 106830)
worry about getting enough senate seats.

^ Bingo.

And just to elaborate: worry about getting enough PRO-DREAM Senate seats (although I'm sure this is what Alex meant; I just wanted to bug him. It's been awhile Alex ;) ).

alex1234 09-01-2008 11:45 PM

Re: Worried
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HOPEFULDREAMER (Post 106831)
^ Bingo.

And just to elaborate: worry about getting enough PRO-DREAM Senate seats (although I'm sure this is what Alex meant; I just wanted to bug him. It's been awhile Alex ;) ).

I already have a mod up my ass all the time. DO NOT be like him ;)

HOPEFULDREAMER 09-02-2008 02:31 PM

Re: Worried
 
You know I love you.


Just a little. :)


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