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Red neck 09-28-2021 01:52 PM

Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
Senate Democrats are trying a second time to provide millions of undocumented immigrants a chance to gain legal status as part of the package of legislation encompassing much of President Joe Biden’s economic agenda, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin said.

Democrats have sent the Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough an alternative immigration plan after she recently blocked them from including a proposal to provide 8 million undocumented immigrants -- including young “Dreamers” and migrant workers -- a path to legal status and eventual citizenship.

The new approach centers on an existing immigration registry that is outdated but has been used as a tool to provide green cards for some undocumented immigrants on the basis of their long-term presence in the U.S., regardless of their status or how they entered the country. That registry hasn’t been altered in federal law since 1986, when an entry year of 1972 was the cut-off for this green-card tool to apply.


Democrats want to move the date to a more recent year, Durbin said, and are hopeful that using an existing law to aid immigrants, rather than creating a new one, can pass muster with MacDonough.

Durbin said he doesn’t have an estimate for how many immigrants might benefit, compared with the plan that targeted 8 million.

“I can’t tell you exactly whether the number is larger or smaller, but it would help a lot of people,” he said.

MacDonough’s earlier decision suggested it could be a tough task to win approval. She said Sept. 19 that the first proposal by Democrats is a policy change that “substantially outweighs” the budgetary impact of that change. That effectively made it out of bounds under the strict Senate rules that Democrats are using to clear the economic package without the threat of a GOP filibuster.

“It is by any standard a broad, new immigration policy,” MacDonough, the Senate’s adviser on the interpretation of rules and procedures, wrote. She also raised concerns that using reconciliation to change immigration law may mean someone’s legal status could be just as easily revoked if Democrats lost Senate control.

As she weighs the new proposal, the clock is ticking for Democrats who see the immigration plan as key to helping cement support for the broader tax and spending package they are racing to complete.

An immigration overhaul has broad support among Democrats in both chambers. Leaving it out will cause howls of protest from progressives, whose push for a much more sizable economic plan has already fallen by the wayside.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=tmIR2vcd

Outsider626 09-28-2021 01:56 PM

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skysla 09-28-2021 01:58 PM

Re: Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
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"Senator Durbin says Dems are - right now making their revised case to the Senate Parliamentarian for including immigration reform in the reconciliation package. They’ve presented a legal memo with new CBO score. It involves changing the date on Natl Immigration Registry."

FarikoXpress 09-28-2021 02:04 PM

Re: Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
Let’s say if this dose get included and passes, how long would it take DACA recipients to get green cards?

VJB2 09-28-2021 02:15 PM

Re: Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FarikoXpress (Post 764373)
Let’s say if this dose get included and passes, how long would it take DACA recipients to get green cards?

I'll wait 10, 15, 20 years, just let me keep my EAD and working legally if I know I have a secure place in line.

ralsingh 09-28-2021 02:17 PM

Re: Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skysla (Post 764372)
https://twitter.com/caphilltrish/sta...70798067269635

"Senator Durbin says Dems are - right now making their revised case to the Senate Parliamentarian for including immigration reform in the reconciliation package. They’ve presented a legal memo with new CBO score. It involves changing the date on Natl Immigration Registry."

Democrats aren't serious about immigration in reconciliation, or at least they have to know that the so-called Plan B will not work. There is no point of new / revised CBO because that was not the Parliamentarian's original objection.

She did not object to CBO score as too low / high. Her concern was that impact of legalization on those with no status at all is far BEYOND the CBO score. Exact quote below (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...form-in-budget)

"LPR status comes with a wide range of benefits far beyond the social safety net programs (Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, CHIP, SSI, etc.) that generate the CBO score."

2Face 09-28-2021 02:21 PM

Re: Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 764374)
I'll wait 10, 15, 20 years, just let me keep my EAD and working legally if I know I have a secure place in line.

Immigraiton reform or no reform....DA or no DA....DACA is definitely here to stay....Nothing is going to happen to it...rest assured. The only way DACA would slowly phase out is when DA passes and people start getitng legalized.

Imthexman 09-28-2021 02:26 PM

Re: Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ralsingh (Post 764375)
Democrats aren't serious about immigration in reconciliation, or at least they have to know that the so-called Plan B will not work. There is no point of new / revised CBO because that was not the Parliamentarian's original objection.

She did not object to CBO score as too low / high. Her concern was that impact of legalization on those with no status at all is far BEYOND the CBO score. Exact quote below (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...form-in-budget)

"LPR status comes with a wide range of benefits far beyond the social safety net programs (Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, CHIP, SSI, etc.) that generate the CBO score."

Yeah, as much as I like Durbin his approach is useless as usual, his speech should be about how Elizabiatch was completely out of line in her political response and demand that her next response should strictly be regarding the Byrd rule, instead he talks about how immigrants culture enrich this country and how a dreamer became a Dr and useless crap like that

Outsider626 09-28-2021 02:47 PM

Re: Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FarikoXpress (Post 764373)
Let’s say if this dose get included and passes, how long would it take DACA recipients to get green cards?

2-3 years

PapiChulo 09-28-2021 02:56 PM

Re: Democrats Offer ‘Plan B’ Immigration Overhaul for Economic Plan
 
hail mary!!!


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