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avf 10-22-2021 10:25 AM

House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
By Suzanne Monyak
Posted October 21, 2021 at 4:55pm

Dozens of progressive House Democrats are ramping up calls for immigration relief to be included in a sprawling budget reconciliation package — regardless of what a Senate arbiter says about it.

Reps. Lou Correa, D-Calif., Adriano Espaillat, D-N.Y., Jesús “Chuy” García, D-Ill., Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and 39 others called on Senate leaders to disregard Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough’s findings that broad immigration relief does not belong in a reconciliation package.

MacDonough, an adviser on Senate procedure, has rejected two attempts by Senate Democrats to establish a path to permanent residency for millions of undocumented immigrants in their reconciliation bill, which may pass with a filibuster-proof majority. She has reasoned that the proposals do not comply with a rule requiring measures passed via reconciliation to have a primarily budgetary impact.

In a Wednesday letter to Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer, the House lawmakers argued that the Senate’s presiding officer has the legal authority to issue a binding decision on a parliamentarian’s advisory opinion. The presiding officer’s decision could then only be overruled with a supermajority, according to the letter.

Under Senate procedure, the presiding officer could be Vice President Kamala Harris, Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, the president pro tempore, or a Leahy designee. Leahy, D-Vt., was also copied on the letter.


“This is a critical moment for our nation’s history, and we strongly urge the Presiding Officer to use their authority to disregard the Senate Parliamentarian’s ruling,” the lawmakers wrote.

After two previous rejections, Senate Democrats are currently preparing to pitch their “Plan C” on immigration, which would provide five-year work permits and deportation protection to undocumented immigrants who have lived in the U.S. for at least a decade.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Richard J. Durbin, D-Ill., on Wednesday said lawmakers were still waiting for the Congressional Budget Office to score the proposal, at which point they will “likely” present it to MacDonough. Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., another key player in immigration talks, said he expects Democrats to make their presentation “either this week or next at the latest.”

At a news conference at the House Triangle earlier Wednesday, Congressional Hispanic Caucus members called for immigration relief to be included in reconciliation. Garcia, D-Ill., also one of the letter’s signatories, called on Senate leadership to “remain bold and courageous.”

“I have not given up, even though we've had two adverse rulings by the parliamentarian, because the parliamentarian is simply an employee of the Senate. She does not control the Senate,” he told reporters.


After the news conference, Garcia said in an interview that he hopes Senate Democrats, while awaiting a decision on Plan C, view the parliamentarian’s first two decisions as a “wake-up call” to take action if needed. He noted that Senate Republicans fired the parliamentarian in 2001 after an adverse ruling.

“That should be a wake-up call for Democrats in the Senate that the parliamentarian is simply an adviser, and do as Republicans have done in the past: Either put aside that ruling or fire the parliamentarian, rule that something is in order for consideration by a simple majority vote. That can get us immigration reform,” Garcia said.

Representatives for Schumer, Leahy and the White House didn’t immediately return requests for comment Thursday.

https://www.rollcall.com/2021/10/21/...n-immigration/

Afridi786 10-22-2021 10:40 AM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
I'm just praying they do something. Gimme parole, can't live my life in 2 year increments. I'd prefer 5 year increments lol.

Hallowpoint1911 10-22-2021 10:54 AM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
Democrats need a win, makes sense they’re ramping up the pressure.

JayR9 10-22-2021 11:30 AM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallowpoint1911 (Post 765147)
Democrats need a win, makes sense they’re ramping up the pressure.

Democrats don't know how to win. Losers will be losers. Fucking weak ass shit, "let my advisor make the decision for me." What kind of bullshit is that.

bigdreamer2010 10-22-2021 11:49 AM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 765146)
I'm just praying they do something. Gimme parole, can't live my life in 2 year increments. I'd prefer 5 year increments lol.

I know right. And international travel as well

Dreamer1980 10-22-2021 11:49 AM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
No more wimping last minute, Democrats need to grow some cojones and get it done. No more looser mentality weakness.

As much as people love to talk shit on AOC she has bigger balls than a lot of the assholes walking in congress

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 765148)
Democrats don't know how to win. Losers will be losers. Fucking weak ass shit, "let my advisor make the decision for me." What kind of bullshit is that.


Hallowpoint1911 10-22-2021 12:00 PM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamer1980 (Post 765150)
No more wimping last minute, Democrats need to grow some cojones and get it done. No more looser mentality weakness.

As much as people love to talk shit on AOC she has bigger balls than a lot of the assholes walking in congress

This is true.

Charolastra 10-24-2021 02:11 PM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamer1980 (Post 765150)
No more wimping last minute, Democrats need to grow some cojones and get it done. No more looser mentality weakness.

As much as people love to talk shit on AOC she has bigger balls than a lot of the assholes walking in congress

She has such big balls that she couldn’t even vote against money for Israel’s Iron Dome lmao

It was a very telling moment. In public it’s all “Free Palestine, Down with Israel” and whatnot, but when it came time to vote she didn’t stick to her guns. Should give you an idea on what kind of person she is. What makes you think she would stand up for us?

MIdreamer 10-25-2021 11:07 AM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
Joe Manchin and Sinema are not on board to override the parliamentarian.

2dreamORnot2dream 10-25-2021 01:41 PM

Re: House Democrats press Senate leaders to override parliamentarian on immigration
 
Throw some pork or committee assignments their way and they will change their mind real quick.


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