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Originally Posted by Bluestar
This is a public forum and all kind of posts are accepted as long as they have evidence to back it up. Also evidence is something that has been scientifically gathered and is not from a biased source.
That said, to reply your post ( or should i say claim without any evidence  ?).
Lets say some a 5 years old kid's parents have done a crime that got them a jail sentence of 10,000,000,000,000,000,........ years of prison.
So what would you with the 10 years old kid?
1) Jail them along with his/her parents ( hey it is not other people's responsibility)
2) let the kid live on the street alone ( Why should any one care, it is the kid's parent fault).
3) Put the kid up for foster care and support the kid, well because he has not done anything wrong and he should not be punished for what his parents did. It is not like the 5 years old kid could stop his parents.
So which one would you pick?
P.S. Forgot to mention this. supporting the kid ( option 3) will promote more parents to do crime, because they know their kid will always be taken care of and will benefit  .
P.S.S. I personally am not offended by your post. It is just that your post lacks so much. It does not have any thing to back it up. Not even a biased evident.
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I of course want the DA to pass but you made a joke of an argument, that would never withstand any scrutiny by anybody opposing the DA.
First of all, the crime that the parents committed doesn't even get passed on to the children. Yes, you are free to leave when you turn 18 and you will not get a 10 year ban. And its a double edge sword; once you turn 18 you are considered an adult so you should bear responsibility for your actions at that time if you do choose to stay. Furthermore, saying that you want to stay here because you have been here for the last 17 out of 18 years of your life is pointless. "Feeling" American doesn't entitle you to any benefits. Really, whats the difference a person who has been here illegally for 10 years and the person who has been here for 2? You should rest your case by mentioning that its all our parents' fault. That has its limits.
Second of all,
"3) Put the kid up for foster care and support the kid, well because he has not done anything wrong and he should not be punished for what his parents did. It is not like the 5 years old kid could stop his parents."
WTF??? The point of the DA is that we don't really get any benefits from it. The government will not be supporting us, we won't even be entitled to fed. financial aid. We are not suppose to be seen as people who are trying to be taken care of by the US government, but people who have worked harder and went further than our parents despite all of the obstacles in our way. When I hear the words, "undocumented" and "support" or "welfere", I say "hell NO!". We should never be entitled to those until we become US citizens. If we cannot do it on our own, we should not be entitled to stay here. And I personally believe the case should be the same with LPRs.
We are talking about the Dream Act here, not some "save the children" foundation. Most of us don't just want to stay here. We want to stay here and fulfill our dreams; dreams that can only be fulfilled in the US. Dreams we worked hard for. WE are not asking for a handout; we are offering something in return: US trained professionals across numerous fields of science and humanities. Something that US has already spent a great deal of money on, and now they could just reap the fruits of our education at a discount price.