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Originally Posted by questionsihave
Really? There is a limit to what we can do; we are undocumented afterall. I think the work some people have done for the Dream Act is incredible given the circumstances. Personally, I want to do more, but the time and resources haven't been there. Of course, since the semester is almost over, there should be a pick up in action, but If I had any sort of legal status, I would move to D.C., and campaign for the DA as much as I could. That of course isn't the case. Anyway, we fall into the 17-30 age range. How do you expect the younger part of that group to forget about school, magically get a driver's license, and start campaigning? This is the "Achllie's Heel" of the DA. Please remember that.
I also think the lazy remark is misplaced. Look at how thinks are done in the Senate. There are very few bills passed standalone. Actually, there are very few bills passed in Senate in general. I think less than 1% percent of bills introduced in the Senate actually end up passing. I think in President O's book, he said in 2004, only 12 bills actually passed the senate. Senators know this so they usually attach bills to larger bills. That is just how it is. This is why people say, "Lets do it comprehensively." They know it would be difficult to do each piece individually so they "band together." Sad thing is when the comprehensive option is off the table, as what happened to CIR in 2007, as you said, "Very few politicians and organizations will pull their muscle to pass the DA." Interestingly, the DA didn't need to muscle in 2007 since it still came up for a vote. There just wasn't any time.
Finally, you seem to be in favor of the comprehensive option. That is great, I am not against it either. What I am against is when bills are held back from passing, because people want them to pass comprehensively. So, if CIR will happen this year, let it happen. If it isn't, then trust me, if I see CIR advocates hold the DA back this year, then I will not support a comprehensive option in the future.
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I am not in favor or CIR being attached with DA. I am in favor of Dream becoming a reality this year, no matter how. Still, every time a member makes that statement to prove their point, they use a vs language or better than thou attitude that hurts DA. You complain about the damn flags on the parade, well, I think the same about Dreamers that go around an make it harder for us to convince people and groups to work for Dream. And yes, pro-DA is pro-CIR for them.
As for the powerless thing, a group of field workers rented a bus and went to lobby to back then president Bush about school funding for their kids. They didn't speak English, no DL, no high school diploma, they did more than us with much less. btw, they got their money. I am 28, and the limits of the undocumented life are clear to me after 15 years of the life. Also, after listening to people cry for their many problems, I can distinguish the different between self-pity and self-compassion.
Honestly, some members need to stop the self-pity thing. When someone else does a mistake we feel entitled to ask for the maximum punishment or minimized their pain. Then why is it wrong for me to call lazy, the people who should do something about their own situation? I am not Jesus. There is not a leave your family and earthly possessions clause. I am not even asking you to do what I think it should be done. Still, everyone knows in their brains, if they are doing what they can do for the passage of DA.
What a person can do is very limited. A small group of people can do more than one. A big group of people can do much more, and if other groups of people join them, then anything is possible. Still, here, it seems that many of you think that because you have a bachelor, the sea should separate its waters for you to walk across. I am just stating that it is not the case.
Again, for the record, I am in favor of any type of calculation that makes DA possible
this year. After that, I guess I am with you that I am not going to support CIR or DA or anything because I am going to deport myself back to Mexico. I love California and I care deeply for you guys but I am also in love with home equity and making money for a living. I am doing everything in my power to pass DA but if it is not enough, then it is time to say goodbye.
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