as far as the cc being a bad thing, it's mostly ppl in 4 year colleges busting balls. I know quite a few uni. professors that teach the same courses at the cc. There are some classes that could use improvement (some of the Adv Calculus) but that could be said of uni. courses as well. Hey, if a certified welder can make up to twice the avg. salary of an engineer, it can't be that bad.