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07-17-2014, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith View Post
Basically the people was meant for citizens of a country.

So us the illegal people are not citizens so really any part of the constitution that gives rights to the people does not apply for us.


And that was taken to the supreme court wasn't it ?

Be interesting if right wing siders decide to use that case against us
Basically yes.

The full text can be found here for those interested in the full legal treatment.

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The alien, to whom the United States has been traditionally hospitable, has been accorded a generous and ascending scale of rights as he increases his identity with our society. Mere lawful presence in the country creates an implied assurance of safe conduct and gives him certain rights; they become more extensive and secure when he makes preliminary declaration of intention to become a citizen, and they expand to those of full citizenship upon naturalization.

This ascending scale of constitutional rights is elaborate. An alien outside the country has fewer rights than one within, e.g., an alien held at the border has no right to a deportation hearing...
I like to summarize it as:

Full citizens have the most rights.
Followed by legal migrants inside the US.
Followed by illegal migrants inside the US/legal migrants outside the US.
And non-citizens have no right. Because fuck you, USA! USA! USA!.
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