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07-08-2015, 10:10 AM
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Kamara22
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Originally Posted by bigdreamer2010 View Post
You're not making any sense.. The guy who's against DACA, voted against CIR, and supports the Tea Party is the best possible outcome? Apparently you either don't know the records of each candidate or have the analytical skills of a pre-schooler. If anything Bush is the best possible outcome. Which is exactly why the GOP is propping him up so much to win over the Hispanic votes. Unlike Paul, Bush supports DACA, CIR, and is not in the tea party.

No one would remember DACA? There's over 700k people who have DACA. That number grows exponentially when you include their family members and friends who see the benefits of DACA. The "main stream media"(lol) would LOVE to see a Republican president or Republican Congress end DACA.. They would have headlines and stories for months about "innocent children being deported". They would have photos of a crying baby being grabbed away from their family. Oh and the Democrats would hop in it SOOOO fast it'll make your head spin.

The reason why Obama expanded DACA and implemented DAPA is for political reasons. He said so himself in not so many words. It was something a long the lines of "the more people that benefit from it the harder it will be to remove". Its the same argument made for social security, and the affordable care act. This whole "immigration" "issue", which is truly just bullshit if you think about it, is nothing more than a wedge issue used by Democrats to retain power.

Whether or not we like it, we're political pawns. However, since we're the pawns it'll be in our best interest to support those who give us benefits for their political gains. At least in that situation we get something out of it. However, don't think we're just political pawns for Democrats. Republicans use us as pawns too. Look at Donald Trump. The more vitriolic rhetoric towards immigrants, illegal or not, the greater political gain for Republicans among primary and midterm voters. Trump, as much of an unqualified and asinine candidate that he is, has LITTERALLY (Literal fucking ly) propelled himself to the TOP of the polls of Republican presidential candidates just by taking a few stabs "at those mexicans".

So I will double down on my argument that we can only pray and hope that we have an Obama 2.0. to use the immigration wedge issue to retain power. Since, as we all know, CIR is dead without a super majority of Democrats and a strong economy. Obama first initiated DACA to retain power. If he did not, and lost the election, how would the last 3 years of your life have been under self-deportation Romney?

Obama is playing the same game again with DAPA and extended DACA. I'm sure he knew of the possible lawsuits. I believe that's why the programs were set for implementation so early. Once the litigation bullshit goes through, the programs will roll out just in time for the 2016 election. Just like how DACA rolled out just in time for 2012. And if it doesn't go our way, the Democratic nominee can still say they will "do everything within their legal power....to ensure_____" .

But whatever, I digress.
Have you heard Jeb Bush's views on DACA recently? Well since throwing his hat fully into the presidential ring, he is now against it. While he admits we need real immigration change(so does Obama and everyone else in the America ), he isn't agreeing to extend DACA until a compromise is found in Congress. He has gone from saying he would extend DACA, to the opposite. I agree 100% about Ron Paul, because before he ran for president his track record was anti immigration, basically anti us. He can say what he needs to now to achieve the Latin vote but when the race is fully underway his record will come to haunt him.


Here are links you can see for yourself about Jeb Bush views on DACA

Initial he said he would expand the DACA program
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ts-joel-gehrke

Now Jeb Bush promises Republicans to repeal the DACA program
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jeb-...ma-immigration
Last edited by Kamara22; 07-08-2015 at 10:20 AM..
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