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Major changes to DREAM Act (5th version) - Page 5

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Yeah, but you said January 2011, not 2012.
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Thats easy for you to say and what about the 30-35 who originally got it all started back in 2001? What is even sad is that they even removed the Retro part.

They are going to legalize someone who is 29 with no college but they will not consider someone who maybe a day older at age 30 with a Degree?
The new version is not fair to the 30-35 group, lets see what happens!!!!
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The new bill is the best chance we have. s 3992 needs to pass, which is the only one that has the best chance. That said, it is still not a guarantee that it will pass. I know the new age cap (29 yrs) seems low, but consider what we are against (tx cut issue/illegal intollerance), it will just increase the chances and it will help the MAJORITY of us. I know it may not seem fair for the older dreamers but what can I say.
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I say to Obama 'Don't think it, Just Ink it'
Just sign the Executive Order already. Brilliant! (:
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This executive order crap is kind of like the birther crap. Unsubstantiated wishful thinking BS
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This executive order crap is kind of like the birther crap. Unsubstantiated wishful thinking BS
DA User has been talking about it for a while......... Wishful thinking is right!
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It happened in 1986 though.

I say to Obama 'Don't think it, Just Ink it'
Yes it did happen in 1986, and if you have spent a second listening to them, they consider the 1986 amnesty a failure because there was 2 million illegals then and 12 million now who came expecting another amnesty.

And I hate to say it, even if you leave in the 35 year olds:

Employer: So I see you are 35, what experience do you have?
answer: I worked under the table, no real experience
Employer: OK, what have you been doing for the last 15 years of your life?
Answer: Waiting for the Dream Act
Employer: I'll give you a call, bye
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lol @ arguing with DA User, is as pointless as just that.. arguing with DA User.
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By: Prerna Lal (CHANGE.ORG)
Dec. 1, 2010

Late last night, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid filed a motion for cloture with a new final version of the DREAM Act, S. 3992, that would given young undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship. The legislation could be voted on as early as Saturday.

Many proponents are perturbed by restrictions in the new bill, but the leadership appears open to the new compromises -- the question is whether this will be enough to win over support from wavering Senators. Under the changes by Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL), the bill's primary sponsor, the DREAM Act will provide undocumented students will conditional non-immigrant status, which act like a temporary visa, rather than conditional legal residency. The adjusting students would thus likely not qualify for the health benefits enacted by Congress last year.

Durbin also removed the portion of the legislation that would have allowed states to set their own requirements for in-state tuition without being subject to frivolous lawsuits; however, students would be eligible for federal student loans and work study, and permitted to work and travel overseas.


To qualify for the DREAM Act, undocumented immigrants not only need to have been brought to the U.S. as minors, they also must be no older than 30 years old at the time of the bill's enactment, a decrease from the previous age of 35 that has particularly concerned advocates. However, the Secretary of Homeland Security would have the discretion to waive grounds of ineligibility for humanitarian purposes or family unity. International students and children of H-1 non-immigrants who often age-out of their family petitions would also qualify if they arrived in the U.S. before the age of 16.

Youth with conditional non-immigrant status will now have to wait 10 years, rather than 6, before applying for legal permanent residency, and then apply for citizenship after another 3 years. At first glance, this might just seem like a much longer wait, but by giving undocumented youth 10 years to fulfill a 2-year college or military service requirement, Sen. Durbin is allowing more immigrant youth to qualify while crafting the bill as tougher. Those who do not take the education path would have to join the armed forces, not just any uniformed services. Most importantly, the legislation provides for an early adjustment to legal permanent residency upon marriage, getting work sponsorship, or through an approved family visa petition.

Security provisions are much tighter under the new legislation, but are comparable to what any legal permanent resident faces upon immigration to America. Besides retaining ineligibility for those with criminal convictions, a qualifying beneficiary needs biometrics and medical examinations, and cannot practice polygamy, prostitution, be a member of the Communist Party, or be otherwise engaged in acts of terror against the United States.

It is important to note that this is not the final version of the bill. Amendments can be added and, if it does pass the Senate, the House may pass a different version and a conference committee would need to work out a compromise -- though with little time left on the legislative calendar, it is more likely that the House would pass the Senate version.

Even with the changes, current Senate whip counts do not look good. The most likely Republican targets to get the necessary votes include a trio of women: Sen. Kay Bailey-Hutchison (TX), who has indicated in the past that she likes the temporary visa option, Sen. Olympia Snowe (ME). and Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME). These powerful and extraordinary women have the chance of a lifetime to become heroes in the immigrant community when they cast the deciding votes on the legislation in the very near future.

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they also must be no older than 30 years old at the time of the bill's enactment, a decrease from the previous age of 35 that has particularly concerned advocates.[/b][/i] However, the Secretary of Homeland Security would have the discretion to waive grounds of ineligibility for humanitarian purposes or family unity. International students and children of H-1 non-immigrants who often age-out of their family petitions would also qualify if they arrived in the U.S. before the age of 16.
Are you sure no older then 30 or younger then 30? I turned 30 less then 6mths ago, I am going to consult an attorney about my chances, I rather take that chance!!!
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I read this version and didn't see any section for removing the In-State option? Did anyone else see it? Did they remove it?
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