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how would your ideal CIR text look like? - Page 2

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Interesting topic,Here is my input.

Any immigration bill will be required to end illegal immigration & the public must be absolutely convinced that it can work.

-I think any CIR bill should be based on strictly Government researched facts,anything by the GAO should do followed by a Federal Government response nationwide as to why it should be implemented on the Federal level with input from Congressional districts nationwide as to what maybe enhanced,but it must be backed by logic & facts only.No polls,pundits or information will be accepted by the Government from either side of the immigration debate if there is reason to believe the information maybe politically motivated.

-All Local laws pertaining to Federal immigration laws will be repealed by citing the supremacy clause in the Constitution.

-There should be a priority system in both enforcement & legalization which can be sustainable instead of Congress just throwing money at only one particular aspect of the problem & expecting results.

-Any Immigration bill should be advocated as expanding the rights & opportunities of current US citizens.It should be written in law that US citizens & US residents be given first choice for employment before any application of a work visa could be given or authorized.Those whom are undocumented & are related to US citizens or Residents would also be given first priority in any legalization program by application.

-Employment enforcement will be strict.Any Job in the US or its territories will require pre-clearance from ICE in conjunction with a Biometric social security card[Schumer].Failure to Obtain pre-clearance on an employee is an automatic $1000 fine for every employee per day they have worked without approved clearance depending on whom is at fault,whether the employee using fake documents or the employer hiring unauthorized workers.To ensure that no workers are undocumented,a bounty system will also be used to enforce the immigration laws where employees or employers can contact Federal authorities for a sum of money for every unauthorized worker.

-The year of Registry will be updated to June 1st,2004.No applications can be made for at least 1 year after the comprehensive bill has passed to ensure the appropriate mechanisms at USCIS are in place to deal with the undocumented population.All undocumented[except those with criminal records] would be granted defacto "Witholding of Removal" with travel rights to their countries of origin while the Government expands USCIS & ICE to cope with the realistic expectations of what they will face on the Federal level in the future.There is also a 10 year cut-off date to prevent future misuse of the legalization program.Uscis shall determine what the appropriate fees are.

-Immigration Judges,Prosecutors will also be expanded to cope with the temporary increase in Immigration related cases.

-Keep the current quota system when it comes to family & employment visas but include a tiny exemption.Any Priority dates that go past 10 years for any one particular country in any visa category will automatically make Permanent visas become immediately available.

-Declare English the official language.

-Do not allow certain parts of Comprehensive reform to inhibit the progress of passing an actual immigration bill.

-Another agency would be created under DHS with Integration of all new immigrants as its mission.


This is about all I could come up with at the moment,hopefully the elected officials have better ideas.
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Ianus, you ARE God...

you said what senator schummer has stated about CIR benefiting the American public also, not only the undocumented. It is what Obama is doing by showing that hes serious about securing the border.

I started this thread because I wanted to see what you guys were gonna come up with.

what i realized is that all of us here are a bit selfish when it comes to setting up the criteria for CIR. IF i say that in order to get legal status in the U.S, you have to have been present for 10+ years, now the reason im ok with that is because I have been here 10+ years. If the fines are $15,000, I would be ok with it, because I can pay it. IF i say i don't want ANY criminal aliens here, is because I am not one.

If I say close the doors so no more illegals could get in, is because I don't have any family from Latin America. IF i want English to be the official language, is because I only know how to speak English.

... so all in all, it seems that we all base our criteria according OUR lives. As long as WE cover our asses with the CIR blanket; we don't care about the next waive of immigrants.

For me personally, all this has made me a better person, I can feel for others in a way i haven't before. I've read your stories and seen your faces all around me.

a wise man once said "the immigrants of today, will be the nativists of tomorrow"... i wanna try very hard to not look at myself and think that everyone has it as good as me. even if i don not reach my goal of staying here, i dont want to stop encouraging people to come here to do something in their lives.

they say "oh go better your own country, dont come here"... the Pilgryms had a country too, they left it because they couldnt live there.

your all fat.
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And I guess this thread is about our own ideal Comprehensive Immigration Reform text so I’ll refrain from critiques, but Ianus - English as the official language? Bad wolfy.
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I just want to say this....

The whole CIR issue is a complete mess, and I'm glad I'm a DREAMer. I am basically only counting on the DA for myself, and if my parents want to wait for CIR that's their problem. I'm not being selfish but even when the CIR passes, it will probably be such a bureaucratic mess that it might still take years before people get their status adjusted. Even now we have huge backlogs with the visas and other stuff and we don't have 10 million people applying.

And yes, English should be the official language. Now i just gotta hope i didn't make any mistakes because I'm a little drunk.
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I think some sort of text with a list of certified lawyers for immigration should be included as well. Afterall, there are many immigrants who might have been in better positions if they knew the immigration track record of their "alleged" attorney. I guess if they closely monitored so called immigration attorneys, many immigrants will be careful to throw money at attorneys who are out to take advantage of people in desparate situations.
A couple of quick points on some of the previously mentioned issues....
1. I dont think the point system will ever be used in the US. Only socialist countries will allow something like that. This is a capitalist country i.e. survival of the fittest. I dont think that works for capitalism.(I'm not saying I'm against it)
2. Also for those worried about the fees bloating for families with children, wouldn't the DREAM portion cover most of those children? I don't think $10,000 is feasible but it can be used as mentioned earlier as a payment plan with low interest rates over a certain period; another economic boosting idea for the bill.
Thats my two cents in addition to most of what you all have already mentioned.
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