Obama Pitches Immigration Policy - Page 2

dado123 · dado123

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Originally Posted by alex1234

tell that to congress, plus like the article said he wants healthcare and energy first, unless we get really close to a 60 majority in the senate i dont see anything happening next year or the year after.

C'mon do not be so pessimistic, no one can predict a political outcome with 100% certainty.

VJB2 · VJB2

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Originally Posted by alex1234

because the Dream Act is not immigration related

Obviously you haven't quite gotten the distinction between DREAM itself and CIR. It's not to choose which is best and which will be passed first, but at least comprehension about the differences between the two would be logical.

vivace · vivace

I don't think that his "immediately" will really mean immediately.
I agree with alex1234 when he said that healthcare and energy will most likely be addressed first.
I do hope that DREAM is passed within the first term.

verve · verve

I think our goal for 2009 should be to get obama to pledge his support for passing of Dream within 100 days of his presidency. What Can we do to make that happen?

kenny1314 · kenny1314

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Originally Posted by vivace

I don't think that his "immediately" will really mean immediately.
I agree with alex1234 when he said that healthcare and energy will most likely be addressed first.
I do hope that DREAM is passed within the first term.

first term? it is meaning we still have to wait like 3-4years to legalize....

CIR_DREAM2009 · CIR_DREAM2009

Lets worry about Obama getting elected first. Its no guarantee especially with the current state of the race (which can change).

Ianus · Ianus

I believe that the first term/first year references are toward a Comprehensive bill not really Dream act alone.

There is an article just released today on what a hypothetical Obama & McCain Presidency would look like.What really stood out in the article is that McCain is highlighted to be better for a CIR bill,but some underlying facts favor Obama for Dream act alone.

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..........What “big things” might be feasible under a McCain administration? Two possibilities are immigration reform and a “cap-and-trade” system to regulate carbon emissions. McCain’s presidential bid nearly imploded in mid-2007 after the Arizona senator supported a comprehensive immigration bill that included a “path to citizenship” for illegal immigrants and a new guest-worker program. The bill triggered ferocious opposition from conservative Republicans, and ultimately died in the Senate. McCain managed to rejuvenate his campaign, and has since altered his tune on immigration, placing greater rhetorical emphasis on border security.

But if congressional Democrats sent a liberal immigration bill to President McCain’s desk, would he sign it? Given McCain’s history of bucking his own party on the issue, it’s a good question. (McCain did not mention immigration in his convention speech.) At a Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) event last week, CFR scholar Edward Alden said that the prospects for comprehensive immigration reform would be “somewhat better” under a McCain administration than they would be under an Obama administration.......

.........What about a President Obama? If Obama is elected, said Ornstein, the Democratic left will expect him to pursue an ambitious liberal agenda. If a President Obama instead chose to honor his post-partisan rhetoric and work with congressional Republicans, he would risk angering his base.

“This is a time for bold action to get things done,” said Senator Klobuchar. She reckons that an Obama administration’s top three priorities would be healthcare reform (“the number-one domestic battle”), energy and climate policy, and “changing the way our country does business with the rest of the world.” Sweet said that a President Obama would benefit from having loyal “enforcers” in Congress, namely, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin and House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel, both (like Obama) from Illinois. She also speculated that Obama might be willing to “go over the head” of Congress and rely on his nationwide grassroots network of supporters to promote his initiatives.

Barring a complete GOP meltdown, Democrats probably won’t gain a filibuster-proof 60-seat Senate majority. But an Obama administration would not necessarily need 60 Democratic senators to push through its agenda, said Kyl, provided it could peel off a few liberal and moderate Republicans. That agenda would ostensibly include raising taxes on the top income earners, expanding government management and regulation of American healthcare, boosting subsidies for renewable energy sources, slapping a “windfall profits tax” on Big Oil, establishing a cap-and-trade program to regulate carbon emissions, and appointing liberal judges to the federal bench.

[Cough]...Dream act... !

CIR_DREAM2009 · CIR_DREAM2009

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But an Obama administration would not necessarily need 60 Democratic senators to push through its agenda, said Kyl, provided it could peel off a few liberal and moderate Republicans. That agenda would ostensibly include raising taxes on the top income earners, expanding government management and regulation of American healthcare, boosting subsidies for renewable energy sources, slapping a “windfall profits tax” on Big Oil, establishing a cap-and-trade program to regulate carbon emissions, and appointing liberal judges to the federal bench.

Be still my heart! But he has to get elected first and McCain has the momentum. Hopefully, McCain is just peaking too soon and hopefully the Obama campaign attacks him to take him off the ledge. Forget post partisanship, throw sand in McCain's face. McCain has no qualms doing it to Obama judging by McCain's mudslinging lately.

gsb89 · gsb89

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Originally Posted by CIR_Dream2007

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Be still my heart! But he has to get elected first and McCain has the momentum. Hopefully, McCain is just peaking too soon and hopefully the Obama campaign attacks him to take him off the ledge. Forget post partisanship, throw sand in McCain's face. McCain has no qualms doing it to Obama judging by McCain's mudslinging lately.

I agree w/you 1000%! Democrats are always acting like little girl scouts! I think its time for them to get their hands dirty! .. and start some shit talking!

CIR_DREAM2009 · CIR_DREAM2009

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