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#51
12-04-2011, 02:58 PM
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And here is a video of some dudes interrogating and torturing some people in Veracruz (Viewer Discretion is Advised) I know people in Michoacan and they say as long as you don't mess with the wrong people you should be fine. But there are shootouts and you could potentially be caught in the middle of it.

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12-04-2011, 03:11 PM
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Well you have to look at it this way. The only cartel that really does extortion is the Zetas, and the Acapulco ones. The Zetas are mostly on the Gulf Coast and the Texas border cities...and Monterrey. Sinaloa doesn't extort, they make enough money selling drugs. And if you are a narco, how are you goingto make money: You need port cities to bring your product in from South America and Asia, you need borders with Guatemala to bring it in overland, and you need border citiies with the US to move your product into the US across the border. Then, you need major regional hubs where all of the major roads to the border cities run through, like Monterrey. And on top of that, there are retail sales in the major cities like Guadalajara...and remote mountain areas to set up your meth labs (Michoacan).
So, those all happen to be the areas where the gangsters are hanging out. Puebla doesn't meet any of those descriptions. And Veracruz is historically the oldest port in the country, and I went there two weeks ago and I was surprised how quickly the zetas got cleaned out.
Cities like Queretaro, Aguascalientes, Puebla, Tlaxcala, everywhere in Guanajuato, Cancun, Cabo....are all mostly untouched.


And I feel safer living in Puebla than I would in Los Angeles or Houston Texas. I have been hearing about the cartel violence goin on there. If you want to know where the violence is at and why, you can read this.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&hl=en&ct=clnk
I agree with you that cartels infest certain areas for strategic reasons.

You are lucky that you are passionate about teaching man. But, I consider the risks that I might be getting into and that I would be exposing my parents to if I ever aspired to a position in public office (which I am deeply passionate about) in Mexico, and I get super frustrated. Now, I could into teaching or other fields, such as science, that wouldn't expose me to the chaos, but it's not what I am passionate about.

If I had a sense that Mexico provides its public servants and their families with incorruptible,strong security forces, I would be down there rolling heads.
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12-04-2011, 03:22 PM
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I like how this thread completely turned into a discussion about Mexican crime and drug cartels. I'm sure in every one of our home countries there are nice areas and there are bad areas. But you know what, OP? If you're so set on believing that the U.S. is no good and we're wasting your time here, go ahead and leave, no one's begging you to stay.
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I love it when women get frustrated. :- )

Relax dude.
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I've been thinking about this route more and more lately. Although, my "leaving" is a little more uncertain. My documents are from the USSR, specifically the part that is now called Estonia, although my family is Russian. When the judge ordered deportation, he couldn't even decide where to send us back to so he said to try Estonia first, then Russia. It's not even sure that either country would accept us.

With Estonia, I don't even speak Estonian & apparently they don't really like Russians there due to past history so I wouldn't even know what to prepare for. And w/ Russia, well I've never even stepped foot into that country, so being "sent back" there doesn't make sense to me. It's a mess.

I've been in the US my last 19 of 24 years, but at this point I'm really starting to weigh the options between getting tossed back to god knows where vs. living somewhere where I feel like I'm some kind of criminal.
If you do go back, I hope it's Estonia. Estonia is part of the EU so you could go to the UK (or any other part of the EU) as soon as you get you EU paper work worked out.
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They found twenty something bodies dumped inside various cars a block away from where the pan am games took place. They were members of the Sinaloa Cartel and were executed by the Zetas.
son of a bitch. good thing the state I live in has very lose gun laws. If I go back, Im going to take a gun with me and if one of those zeta pricks tries to extort me they are getting an ass full of lead

I dont believe in god so Iwont think twice to kill somebody in self defense
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12-05-2011, 01:54 AM
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son of a bitch. good thing the state I live in has very lose gun laws. If I go back, Im going to take a gun with me and if one of those zeta pricks tries to extort me they are getting an ass full of lead

I dont believe in god so Iwont think twice to kill somebody in self defense
They will probably kill you with your own gun.
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whats your dream job??
Structural engineering working for ICA, CH2MHILL, OR JACOBS.
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Structural engineering working for ICA, CH2MHILL, OR JACOBS.
nice..1700 bucks a month may not sound like a lot, but it goes along way in Mexico. My uncle pulls in about 60,000 grand in Mexico and he has a pretty huge house and a guest house. He also has other properties
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12-05-2011, 02:26 PM
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Its fine seriously. You guys need to know that it all depends on the city you choose. Some cities (likely the ones your family come from), well, they left those cities and regions for a reason. There are great places in Mexico where there aren't many migrants trying to leave. Now, I'm not trying to insult your home states or cities, just stating the obvious. People left certain areas for a reason.

So far where I live there have been no gunbattles or anything (Puebla). Supposedly, Veracruz was supposed to be hot, more dangerous than the past. But we had a 3 day weekend for the Revolution and we spent it there. Completely quiet. We asked the locals questions about everything going on. The taximan said it got "hot" for about a week and a half. For that period, there were a few gunbattles with the Zetas, the MataZetas,and the Marines. But seriously, they moved in and cleared it out quickly. The driver said he hasn't heard or seen any action for two weeks before we got there. The Matazetas killed all of the zetas who were extorting people and dumped their bodies on the main road. So now everyone is happy....except the tourism took a hit.

As far as the corruption goes, I'll tell you a story: Here in the colleges, students don't like to pay for the whole book because it is expensive, so the photocopy it. Someone told me about this, so I devised a plan. I decided to buy the book, then copy it myself. It was going for 350 pesos new, but I offered to sell it for 200 in copies. Of course I found a copy man who did the copies and put a binding on the books for 50 centavos a page, which is less than a penny. It took about 80 pesos to make, so I pocketed the rest times 16 students a class. So I made 120 pesos every book and I was the sole distributor because no one wanted to buy the original.
Wouldn't 50 cents in pesos be like 4 cents in USD?
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