Is It Time To Move On From the Democratic Party? - Page 5

Originally Posted by Copper

Biden just pardoned his son. He should pardon Dreamers too, but I bet he won’t do it. Didn’t mentioned us for 4 years during his administration, I doubt he will think of us now.

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan

After hearing trump talk about how Republicans are for us, I know one thing: I don't know squat about whats going on.

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr

Eh he talked similar about us his first term and did nothing when he had multiple chances

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan

I strongly align with the libertarians in that I want to mind my own business and have everyone else mind their own business. But the Puritans settled first and made it their business to police everyone else.

Libertarians never win outright and they are mostly generated when republicans throw out someone for not following the party line. Or from people who are a little too optimistic. Besides many of their policies assume a smart and intelligent population, which given the recent election and pinheads googling "what are tariffs and can I change my vote" means it would not be effective. Democracy only works with an intelligent population or you get demagogues who can lie their way to the white house.

Seriously there were people voting against Obamacare not realizing until too late that its actually called the Affordable care act. Whoops! RUH ROH! Good luck with your pre-existing condition. Watch them scurry off to take advantage of Mexican health care as a last ditch effort.

And people voting for tariffs not realizing that tariffs were paid by the consumer side! Whoops!
Turns out the republican party didn't have your best interests in mind and you were just the useful idiot, patsy, fall guy, and bag holder.

So yeah, even if the Democrats are weak spineless pushovers day in and day out. They aren't the ones trying to actively damage us. At best we are just a 4th tier consideration. I don't see how anyone could see the rhetoric coming out of the mouths of republicans as anything but hostile. And I know some of you have some Stockholm syndrome for them, but no, they mean you harm. They want to put you in camps and subject you to humiliation. They want to place mines all over the border so they quickly shift due to the river and become a major problem for decades. Good luck finding the mines across 1,200 miles.

Now before anyone says: "but nuance not every republican". If there are three nazis at a table and a fourth person sits down they are likely a secret 4th nazi. And a rotten apple spoils the bunch. The bunch are now spoiled. Seriously, I've seen some republicans talking about "open season" on us. And "walk out or carried out."

They are so prideful and arrogant as to demand a military incursion in mexico without any mexican authorization or knowledge. Like we are some sort of colony of theirs. And yeah it can be a little inflammatory and I won't deny it stirs anger in me, but ultimately that fades into sadness. Sadness that because Mexico is the one nation in the US's sphere that doesn't bend over and lick boot like Pet nation Canada and all the Euros cowering under the NATO umbrella that its automatically marginalized and threatened periodically by the bi-polar US administration. Mexico is the only nation it seems that calls out the two-faced neighbor to the north. Its actually quite sad. The US and Mexico should be the bestest of buds in terms of nations. Both to promote free trade and regional integration, but also because its simply a wise investment in national security.

I love how they are so in love with following DEH LAWH but their president elect has 91 indictments and 35 felonies as if those will fade away. How about we start following the law there? No? The fish rots from the head.

But whatever, the election is over and now its time to reap what has been sown. If you don't like the taste of shit, stop planting shit trees.

Originally Posted by Got_Daca

Nope

Trump offered DACA legalization in exchange for the wall

Dems blocked it

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr

Not true I remember poison pills added after pelosi and Trump agreed on daca for wall. Schumer also offered it on a shutdown period and Stephen miller told Schumer to go back to Israel

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan

Its so strange that some Jews would align so closely with the Republicans and Trump. Given that the Neo-Nazis and similar scum tend to go 99% for Republicans.

Found the article:
""...Towards the end of the night I went to the Trump Tower, where Trump supporters were celebrating. The mood was jovial until one man from a Jews for Trump group recognized a young man wrapped in an American flag as [some streamer] known for his anti-semitic statements. The Jewish man started screaming at [some streamer], trying to instigate a fight and accusing him of being a Nazi and an anti-semite. [some streamer] didn't budge, calmly replying “What are you going to do about it?”

Two antagonistic groups rubbing shoulders as they celebrated their choice for president encapsulates the contradictions and absurdity of this election. The genuine shock of the Jewish man at finding himself face to face with [some streamer] exposed a glaring disconnect between rhetoric and reality. The unity of such disparate groups who despise one another but came together to idolize the same men does embody a hefty dose of irony.""

Trump really conned a lot of people into voting against their own interests. Its actually kind of impressive. Oh well, too late for could'a should'a. The test was open note and you still failed to pass. This is the equivalent of getting held back a grade.

School will be in session Jan 20th and we will learn such topics as:
Whats a tariff?
Who pays the tariffs?
Why are eggs/meat/etc so expensive still?
Why arent the prices gioing down?
Who did X/Y/Z jobs?
How come I have to pay more for X/Y/Z service?
Why come nobody told me that Obamacare was the ACA?
Who will cover my meds now?
Who will cover my prexisting condition?
Why is measles, chickenpox, etc back?