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#21
01-12-2019, 08:01 PM
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It's ridiculous when people say she isn't smart and didn't deserve to get elected. I wonder who is the genius sitting on a computer making those statements I'm just going to go on a limb and say you don't qualify to say that she isn't smart lol

I see her policies favor 98% of America and not all the solutions that she brought up are perfect, but the truth is that she is coming up with feasible solutions that economically and socially make sense.

On the dreamer side, a lot of DACA recipients think this is just about them. I get it you are young person trying to get certainty. Never forget how and why you are here and the sacrifices your family made, you will be a enhance your humanity.


That is the true immingrant mentality that made USA
And who said she isn’t smart or deserve to get elected? My freaking God!

I’m done. Who’s sitting on the other side? Ellen?
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01-12-2019, 08:02 PM
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Ocasio-Cortez is doing something way more important, she's dragging the party by its hair to the left, same how Tea Party and Freedom Caucus drew republicans far to the right. She's also giving the conservative morons someone else to fire at instead of constantly bashing Pelosi.

I don't know about you but I am tired of having a center to right party and right to fascist party with no actual left.

Also in the end the decision to put up a bill to the vote and whip up the votes is up to Pelosi, not to Ocasio-Cortez, if she votes no - fine, democrats can have 16 congressmen vote no and still pass it along party lines.



Yeah she was elected by foot fetishists and not you know, grassroots campaigning to dethrone Joe Crowley, the Chair of House Democratic Caucus, the 4th ranking democrat in the house, in the primary.

Citation needed on the bolded part and anyways since when do you give a flying fuck about jews? Yesterday you were talking about Hitler's jewish driver and stopped maybe two steps before announcing that the holocaust didn't happen.

If you're talking about the general then this is NYC, only swing district here we have is the 11th which covers Staten Island and no republican here will ever get elected.
If that's all you managed to learn then I'm afraid you are a little confused Komrade. In that thread someone claimed a binary of Jews Vs Non-Jews, when the reality is a little more complicated than 4th grade level thinking. There exist some Jews that were full members of Nazis, due to jewish ancestors in their lineage.. Hitler's jewish driver was not only his driver, but also a founding member of the SS.

Linked here again:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice

Jews were scapegoated as the reason why Germany faced a humiliating defeat in ww1 and forced to pay massive reparations and to give away integral parts of its pre-war territory, its military reduced, massive inflation so their economy went to shit. Also to put this into context, at the time the Weimar republic was facing rebellions from Communists. Particularly the communist party of Germany.

Including a full out war between the Nationalist-Socialists, Communists, and the Weimar Republic in which Adolf Hilter ended up winning control of Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...918%E2%80%9319

Hitler scapegoated the Jews and rose to power, bringing a similar message of restoring Germany.

I have never, and never will, deny that the holocaust happened. It is horrific what happened and I hope it never happens again to anyone, ever. Just like the holodomor done by communists, massive deaths of the innocents horrifies me.

On Ocazio being anti-semitic
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/sta...07668993626112

She is a dumb as a doorknob. She is as dumb as they come.

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Since you like the rightward march so much do you prefer the oven or the gas chamber? If you ask nicely there's also hanging and getting shot in the back of the head.
I don't like the leftward march because then we will truly see our nations corrupted and broken on a fundamental level. When we have such a big divide in a nation, that means its time to fracture into two parts, or war will erupt.

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I hate how all these idiots automatically bring up Venezuela when talking about socialist democrats. Because wanting free healthcare automatically means that you’re a fucking communist. This is why humanity can’t have nice things.
Actually if we had free healthcare it would bankrupt the nation. We absolutely cannot afford to have free healthcare. Unless you tackle the cost of healthcare, not by spreading the high costs around and stealing money from others to pay for things, but at the true source, insurance. Insurance is the reason costs are so pants on head retarded. Insurance companies demand a discount, but health insurance places already have healthcare as cheap as the market allows. Easy. Raise prices, then give the insurance a discount.

People without insurance get screwed cause they have to pay inflated costs. People with insurance get boned cause they might not be covered. When you are dying you cant compare costs.

Free market is the only solution here, not full on socialism. Socialism has never before worked, it wont magically start working now. But DogJuiecMan, these nordic countries have socialism. I say look again and look closely at their budgets. Everyone points out the UK, but they are staring down the barrel of financial cataclysm.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/10/healt...ntl/index.html
"Patients are dying in hallways while they wait for beds, senior emergency room doctors told CNN in an earlier report."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#295753c878d5
In 2013, Canadians, on average, faced a four and a half month wait for medically necessary treatment after referral by a general practitioner.

So many failures behind socialism and communism. Only capitalism, survival of the fittest, smartest, best, is the true path. This is how it has worked for humans for hundreds of thousands of years, and the ultimate law of the world. The best rise to the top, the unfortunate worst, sink. Get the government out the way and you'll see the healthcare scam lose steam.

You will have a fisaco like the one with student loans. Costs just keep going up and up. Something will eventually give and cause a deflation.

Last but not least, I refuse to pay for someone else's healthcare under any circumstance unless they are blood, kin, or ally. The solution is never more government, get it's grimy paws out of everything but the essentials.
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01-12-2019, 09:44 PM
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wow! talk about a thread going off topic!
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gaddaym DJM, wtf is up with that long ass post?
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Lol a wall would keep families together, wtf is the reasoning? Are they advocating for illegal immigration?
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Lol a wall would keep families together, wtf is the reasoning? Are they advocating for illegal immigration?
"Protects nuclear family", because you know, parents, adult children, and siblings are complete fucking strangers.
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Fuck the liberal left. Centists are all we need.
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My parents are happy to live wothout status if that trade for me to have a status. So fuck the liberals.
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what about the far-right? u gotta be balanced in ur criticism.

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what about the far-right? u gotta be balanced in ur criticism.
Fuck both. I am a conservative who believes in solving problems. At best I am a centist.
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