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#21
12-08-2010, 12:56 PM
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Oh wow, 5 years with a 5 year extension, after paying a $500 and then a $2000 fee? Now we are really just getting a chance for a work visa, with stricter requirements, no other way to describe it.

As much as I wish the changes weren't there, this really needs to be passed as soon as possible. Not only because a lot of us truly need it, but because, given more time, more and more changes to the bill will appear and the eligible group will keep getting smaller and smaller.

I originally said that, after the original reduction of the age cap and the change of status we would receive, there is nothing stopping them from adding more and more changes/eligibility requirements that will just make things worse.

Unfortunately, I was right because the House version, which used to have no age cap, now has one (this was expected though...), on top of a fee (this was not), simply for applying. If the votes in the house were 'almost' guaranteed, there is no clear reason for the fees, especially after S.3992 bill, which does not include the fees, and will be the one considered by the Senate.
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12-08-2010, 12:57 PM
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The House has released a new version of Dream Act called HR 6497

The HR 6497 bill is a little bit different.

Age cap 30

It mandates a lot of fee in the new bill !

_ $600 application fee for 5 year conditional nonimmigrant status

_ after 5 years, you have to apply for a 5 year extension. It'll cost you up to $2000 for this 5 year extension

_ In the first 5 years of conditional status, you have to earned a degree or has completed at least 2 years of college; or, you have to serve in military for 2 years.

If you meets the above requirements, you could extend your conditional nonimmigrant status for another 5 years.

After 10 years, you could apply for a green card.

Then after another 3 years, you could apply for citizenship.


It's confirmed now, Retroactive provision is completely removed

source: The above post comes from my own analysis of the newest Dream Act bill HR 6497, which was introduced by Rep. Berman on Dec 7th 2010.

Also, I see another pathway for Dream Act now. If the Senate Dream Act bill S. 3992 fails in Senate today, it could still come back to Senate in the form of the house bill HR 6497 given that House is expected to pass HR 6497.
I guess all my hope are gone right?
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#23
12-08-2010, 12:58 PM
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I guess all my hope are gone right?
Pretty much
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#24
12-08-2010, 12:59 PM
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I guess all my hope are gone right?
Yeah pretty much, sorry. But hey the fucking bill has to passed first . Will see today how the vote goes.. Hope for the best.
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#25
12-08-2010, 01:02 PM
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I would just like to remind everyone on this board to keep calling and sending faxes to senators. We don't want to be outnumbered by our opponents. We only have a few hours left, so let's do everything we can.
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#26
12-08-2010, 01:03 PM
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as long as the dream act pass its all good, i'll start a charity or a fundraiser somehow get back on track..we have to compromise somehow with them republicans.
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#27
12-08-2010, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gebodupa View Post
Oh wow, 5 years with a 5 year extension, after paying a $500 and then a $2000 fee? Now we are really just getting a chance for a work visa, with stricter requirements, no other way to describe it.

As much as I wish the changes weren't there, this really needs to be passed as soon as possible. Not only because a lot of us truly need it, but because, given more time, more and more changes to the bill will appear and the eligible group will keep getting smaller and smaller.

I originally said that, after the original reduction of the age cap and the change of status we would receive, there is nothing stopping them from adding more and more changes/eligibility requirements that will just make things worse.

Unfortunately, I was right because the House version, which used to have no age cap, now has one (this was expected though...), on top of a fee (this was not), simply for applying. If the votes in the house were 'almost' guaranteed, there is no clear reason for the fees, especially after S.3992 bill, which does not include the fees, and will be the one considered by the Senate.
The reason that House charges more fee is because

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CBO estimated the bill would reduce the deficit by $1.4 billion over the next decade. The figure reflects a $1.4 billion increase in on-budget deficits, and a $2.8 billion decrease in off-budget deficits, CBO noted. Only on-budget figures are considered under pay-as-you-go budget rules adopted by the House.
The fee is used to offset the $1.4 billion increase in on-budget deficits.
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#28
12-08-2010, 01:07 PM
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Call you congressmen, asap.
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12-08-2010, 01:08 PM
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I guess all my hope are gone right?
No, I don't think it is a clear cut as that yet. And I don't think it will be until 180 days after the act is signed into law.

There will be other people who have met the requirements already (college and under 16 at arrival), but might have aged out, and the DHS might allow for certain considerations, similar to what happens when someone is getting sponsored for PERM/I-485. If their child turns 21 before a visa number is available, but after I-130 is filled, then an extension is allowed.

Something similar might be put in place for people who are already 30-35 and have met the other requirements, but this wouldn't apply to people who haven't yet turned 30 but will not meet the requirements by then, or something like that. I mean I have no idea, you'll have to wait and see.

But one thing is certain, if this fails now, they will never increase the age cap back to 35, and by the time this gets considered again you'll be 40 anyway.
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#30
12-08-2010, 01:08 PM
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We need a newer version for both House and Senate.

This is not fair for 30-34 folks with a Degree.
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