About the SSN

tays123 · 08-24-2012, 01:41 PM

I just got back from talking to you a lawyer. He said that do not put any SSN on any form if it was not given to you by the SS Department. He told me to leave it blank. With that I am sending out my packet as soon as I get some pictures taken!

maortiz · 08-24-2012, 01:43 PM

not even our ITIN

Chn · 08-24-2012, 02:31 PM

I've been doing some research and been finding a lot of things similar to this:

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Am I required to give my Social Security number to government agencies?

The answer depends upon the agency. Some government agencies, including tax authorities, welfare offices, and state Departments of Motor Vehicles, can require your SSN number as mandated by federal law (42 USC 405 (c)(2)(C)(v) and (i)). Others may request the SSN, leading you to believe you must provide it.

The Privacy Act of 1974 requires all government agencies — federal, state and local — that request SSNs to provide a "disclosure" statement on the form. The statement explains whether you are required to provide your SSN or if it’s optional, how the SSN will be used, and under what statutory or other authority the number is requested (5 USC 552a, note). The U.S. Office of Management and Budget, Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) provides guidance and oversight regarding the Privacy Act of 1974. The text of the Privacy Act can be found at the Web site http://www.justice.gov/opcl/privstat.htm.

The Privacy Act states that you cannot be denied a government benefit or service if you refuse to disclose your SSN unless the disclosure is required by federal law, or the disclosure is to an agency that has been using SSNs before January 1975, when the Privacy Act went into effect. There are other exceptions as well. Read the Code of Federal Regulations section here: http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...28cfr16.53.htm.

If you are asked to give your SSN to a government agency and no disclosure statement is included on the form, you should complain to the agency and cite the Privacy Act of 1974. You can also contact your Congressional representative and U.S. Senators with your complaint. Unfortunately, there appear to be no penalties when a government agency fails to provide a disclosure statement.

I also looked at the form and none of then have a disclosure as to why they need the SSN. So, this might help answer those that are wondering of putting fake SSN on the forms. If you're not even required to provide a legit SSN, why would you put a fake one down?

g33k · 08-24-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by maortiz

not even our ITIN

ITIN is not a SSN. Just leave it blank. I use ITIN too.

g33k · 08-24-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tays123

I just got back from talking to you a lawyer. He said that do not put any SSN on any form if it was not given to you by the SS Department. He told me to leave it blank. With that I am sending out my packet as soon as I get some pictures taken!

My pictures are almost free.

NotAPro · 08-24-2012, 02:48 PM

Its so strange this question is still being asked. The SSN question is optional.
Is it bad to want less people to apply so your case goes through faster???

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