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ohohno
05-23-2006, 02:44 PM
Is dream in the current senate bill??
why why not??

GOW125
05-23-2006, 04:28 PM
Yes the Dream Act is in the compromise, that hopefully the Senate will pass in a couple of days. Why you ask? Because is the right thing to do.

Nick
05-23-2006, 09:50 PM
A more specific answer to why would be becuase Senators Durbin, Kennedy, and McCain among others made sure to include DREAM Act in the Judiciarry Committee immigration reform bill, back in January (or was it December? Time trully flies...)

Romeo
05-23-2006, 09:50 PM
I dont understand where dream got included, because i figured ppl at cosa or even here would have announced it with excitement, if someone can explain to me where in the bill its located i would be thank ful

Nick
05-23-2006, 10:01 PM
i figured ppl at cosa or even here would have announced it with excitement...

And we have. :P

Anyway, for specific proof that DREAM Act is in fact included, see http://thomas.loc.gov (Library of Congress) search for bill number S.2611 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006) and look at Chapter 3 - Subtitle C (DREAM Act) of the text. Im sorry I cant provide a direct link, the link wouldnt work the way that website works, but you can deffinitely find it, its there.

Romeo
05-23-2006, 10:28 PM
i went to the website and wrote the number and it told me that its not available

juang
05-23-2006, 11:21 PM
i went to the website and wrote the number and it told me that its not available

dont worry Romeo, im pretty sure that DREAM is in there. The thing that really worries me its that maybe, and just maybe the Senators will be willing to sacrifice DREAM when the debate with the house beggins. I havent read anything that says this could happen nor i have any inside information, but it was something that crossed my mind the other day and thats all.

please dont panic!! we will have to wait and see

and if you do panic, girls, you can come to me, ill protect you :-D

ohohno
05-24-2006, 12:45 AM
i asked because i dont recall sen. durbin or anyone else to make an amendment
it was inculded but for the old bill the one that got killed
they are vote by thurs on the whole bill in the sen

GOW125
05-24-2006, 10:43 AM
Sen Durbin(who I will name my first child after) included DREAM in the Mcain- Kennedy Bill it I saw this happen on C-SPAN.COM. Now the compromise(Hagel-Martinez Bill) which is being debated right now, took the Kennedy Bill and split all 12 million people in 3 groups, that is pretty much the only MAJOR change. DREAM was not changed at all.

Second... Hagel is co-sponsor of DREAM with Durbin, so don't you think that he would include DREAM even if Durbin did not included? Trust us DREAM is in the Senate, hopefully it comes out of the house- senate compromise, which should begin in a couple of weeks. Pray my friends Pray that we could celebrate New Years with Dream.

Nick
05-24-2006, 05:02 PM
i asked because i dont recall sen. durbin or anyone else to make an amendment
it was inculded but for the old bill the one that got killed
they are vote by thurs on the whole bill in the sen

Thats the thing that bill DID NOT get killed. Martinez compromise introduced some changes, but the majority of the underlying bill is still there.

Nick
05-24-2006, 05:07 PM
i went to the website and wrote the number and it told me that its not available

It's kind of retarded, but make sure you enter ONLY "S.2611" (whatever is in the quotes) no extra spaces (even before or after S.2611). Otherwise it will come back as not available.

Here is the bill (s.2611) summary from LoC:

SUMMARY AS OF:
4/7/2006--Introduced.

Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 - Sets forth border security and enforcement provisions, including provisions respecting: (1) personnel and asset increases and enhancements; (2) a National Strategy for Border Security; (3) border security initiatives, including biometric data enhancements and a biometric entry-exit system, document integrity, and mandatory detention of aliens apprehended at or between ports of entry; and (4) Central American gangs.

Border Tunnel Prevention Act - Provides criminal penalties for construction, financing, or use of illegal border tunnels or passages.

Border Law Enforcement Relief Act of 2006 - Authorizes a border relief grant program for a tribal, state, or local law enforcement agency in a county: (1) no more than 100 miles from a U.S. border with Canada or Mexico; or (2) more than 100 miles from any such border but which is a high impact area.

Sets forth interior enforcement provisions, including provisions respecting: (1) alien terrorists; (2) alien street gang members; (3) illegal entry and reentry; (4) passport and immigration fraud; (5) criminal aliens; (6) voluntary departure; (7) detention and alternatives; ( 8 ) criminal penalties; (9) alien smuggling; (10) tribal lands security; (11) state and local enforcement of immigration laws; (12) expedited removal; and (13) alien protection from sex offenders.

Makes it unlawful to knowingly hire, recruit, or refer for a fee an unauthorized alien.

Establishes in the Treasury the Employer Compliance Fund.

Provides for additional worksite and fraud detection personnel.

Provides for a report examining the impacts of the current and proposed annual grants of legal status, including immigrant and nonimmigrant status, along with the current level of illegal immigration, on U.S. infrastructure and quality of life.

Establishes a temporary guest worker program (H-2C visa). Provides: (1) that the Secretary of Homeland Security shall determine H-2C eligibility; (2) for a three-year admission with one additional three-year extension; (3) issuance of H-4 nonimmigrant visas for accompanying or following spouse and children; (4) for U.S. worker protection; (5) for implementation of an alien employment management system; and (6) establishment of a Temporary Worker Task Force.

Expands the S-visa (witness/informant) classification.

Limits the L-visa (intracompany transfer) classification.

Fairness in Immigration Litigation Act of 2006 - Sets forth provisions respecting remedies for immigration legislation.

Sets forth backlog reduction provisions respecting: (1) family-sponsored and employment-based immigrant levels; (2) country limits; (3) immigrant visa allocations; (4) minor children; (5) shortage occupations; and (6) student and advanced degree visas.

Widows and Orphans Act of 2006 - Establishes a special immigrant category for certain children and women at risk of harm.

Immigrant Accountability Act of 2006 - Provides permanent resident status adjustment for a qualifying illegal alien (and the spouse and children of such alien) who has been in the United States for five years and employed (with exceptions) for specified periods of time.

Authorizes mandatory departure and immigrant or nonimmigrant reentry for a qualifying illegal alien who has been present and employed in the United States since January 7, 2004. Establishes a three-year mandatory departure status, and sets forth immigration prohibitions and penalties for failure to depart or delayed departure. Subjects the spouse or children of a principal alien to the same conditions as such alien, except that if such alien meets the departure requirement the spouse and children will be deemed to have done so.

Agricultural Job Opportunities, Benefits, and Security Act of 2006, or AgJOBS Act of 2006 - Establishes a pilot program (Blue Card program) for adjustment to permanent resident status of qualifying agricultural workers who have worked in the United States during the two-year period ending December 31, 2005, and have been employed for specified periods of time subsequent to enactment of this Act.

Revises the H-2A (temporary agricultural worker) program.

Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2006 or the DREAM Act of 2006 - Eliminates denial of an unlawful alien's eligibility for higher education benefits based on state residence unless a U.S. national is similarly eligible without regard to such state residence. Authorizes cancellation of removal and adjustment to conditional permanent resident status of certain alien students who are long-term U.S. residents.

Sets forth provisions respecting: (1) additional Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Department of Justice immigration personnel; and (2) the Board of Immigration Appeals.

Kendell Frederick Citizenship Assistance Act - Provides that fingerprints provided by a qualifying individual at the time of military enlistment shall satisfy naturalization fingerprint requirements. Requires the Secretary of Defense to establish the position of Citizenship Advocate at each military entry processing station.

State Court Interpreter Grant Program Act - Provides state courts grants to assist individuals with limited English proficiency to access and understand court proceedings, and allocates funds for a related court interpreter technical assistance program.

Border Infrastructure and Technology Modernization Act - Provides for: (1) a port of entry infrastructure assessment study; (2) a national land border security plan; and (3) a port of entry technology demonstration program.

September 11 Family Humanitarian Relief and Patriotism Act - Provides permanent resident status adjustment or cancellation of removal and permanent resident status adjustment for a qualifying alien who was on September 10, 2001, the wife, child, or dependent son or daughter of a lawful nonimmigrant alien who died as a result of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks against the United States.

Sets forth provisions respecting: (1) noncitizen Armed Forces membership; (2) nonimmigrant status for athletes; (3) extension of returning worker exemption; (4) surveillance programs, including aerial and unmanned aerial surveillance; (5) a Northern Border Prosecution Initiative; (6) reimbursement of Southern Border State and county prosecutors for prosecuting federally initiated drug cases; (7) conditional nonimmigrant worker-related grants; ( 8 ) border security on federal land; and (9) parole and status adjustment relief for qualifying widows and orphans.

Notice the information in bold.

ohohno
05-24-2006, 10:32 PM
Do we also have to pay the $3k?
thanks and :P