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Smooth 02-26-2017 09:20 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by biscuitneck (Post 606575)
That is obviously retarded and nonsense. Anyone with even the slightest amount of common sense should realize that there are exclusions to be made when trying to bring all undocumented immigrants out of the shadows.

That's pretty clear no matter how you slice it.

I swear to you the interviewers with American Bar Association Immigration Justice Project in San Diego SPECIFICALLY FUCKING CLARIFIED that's what they meant. Hence, every time I read this "every immigrant ..." nonsense . . . it's just mind boggling.

You understand that there are exclusions to be made. Some actually do not agree.

Smooth 02-26-2017 09:21 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by xxrenegadexx (Post 606578)
Damn, you should PM them. Must have been an interesting argument.....

I followed up after the interview and told them I could not do the internship for personal reasons.

longtimelurker 02-26-2017 09:23 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 606579)
He would do just fine giving that speech brah. I know him very well. I think there's a lot of misunderstanding going on here. We all agree to the fact that those with criminal backgrounds (including shit like DUI) should not be defended. We don't want to be associated with losers like that. That will just make it worse for our cause. Trump will eventually snap and be like "Alright you mofos, now you get nothing, I'm getting rid of DACA!"

Donald Trump is an evil and racist man who is ruining our communities. We should never give him any respect. He is tearing up lives. We will never bow down to an opposition.

libertarian1776 02-26-2017 09:26 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
dawg, i agree with this but we gotta pick our fights in a smart way during the next 4 years.

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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606583)
Donald Trump is an evil and racist man who is ruining our communities. We should never give him any respect. He is tearing up lives. We will never bow down to an opposition.


Smooth 02-26-2017 09:26 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606583)
Donald Trump is an evil and racist man who is ruining our communities. We should never give him any respect. He is tearing up lives. We will never bow down to an opposition.

I hope someone insults him, so he strips us of DACA and comes after us. Hopefully, then you can realize how crazy you sound. HE HAS THE POWER TO REVOKE DACA AT ANY TIME AND COME AFTER YOUR ASS. Do you want that Che Pito Guevara???

longtimelurker 02-26-2017 09:28 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 606586)
I hope someone insults him, so he strips us of DACA and comes after us. Hopefully, then you can realize how crazy you sound. HE HAS THE POWER TO REVOKE DACA AT ANY TIME AND COME AFTER YOUR ASS. Do you want that Che Pito Guevara???

Fortunately, your hateful ideologies will never plague the DACAmented community and there are so many DREAMers who feel the same why I do. We will never support that racist man no matter what. Hopefully, the democrats can get their shit together and help us out.

Your post was the epitome of STOCKHOLM SYNDROME, BY THE WAY

moto 02-26-2017 09:30 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 606568)
No, I am not trolling you. If you do not want your words to be misinterpreted, then do not be lazy. Be very fucking specific with the words you use.

For your information, some dreamers are actually pushing for what I am fighting against:

https://www.thenation.com/article/we...-to-save-daca/

Read the subtitle of the article. "The good-immigrants-versus-bad-immigrants narrative is dangerous for all of us." <---You doubt???

You cannot give me that "you doubt"defense either because I have personally discussed the issue with the writer of the article. It came to the point that he called me selfish for pushing the bad vs. good narrative.

Some immigration attorneys are doing the same; I actually turned down a legal internship with a nonprofit because the interviewers specifically told me they defend immigrants with criminal records. They specifically told me, "We believe that ALL immigrants are good immigrants." They literally meant what they said. They EXPLAINED what they meant by ALL.

I wouldn't mind about attorneys. Defending criminals is their job. That's how the system is.
The problem is dreamers with media connections advocating this nonsense of all or nothing. In a way they represent us but clearly that's not what majority of us think. highlight our own achievements, and plights and seek sympathy. He kept DACA and no harm in acknowledging that.
No matter who is in charge, there will always be a compromise or there will be nothing. there are some undocumented who deserve to be thrown out. we get nothing from fighting for them.

2Face 02-26-2017 09:30 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606583)
Donald Trump is an evil and racist man who is ruining our communities. We should never give him any respect. He is tearing up lives. We will never bow down to an opposition.

Replace Donald Trump with Bannon and Sessions and your statement is 100% accurate. All I know is DACA is alive and kicking. That said, I do have some respect for Trump for the latter! I think there will be a sweeping immigration reform bill coming next year after this enforcement!

biscuitneck 02-26-2017 09:32 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 606580)
I swear to you the interviewers with American Bar Association Immigration Justice Project in San Diego SPECIFICALLY FUCKING CLARIFIED that's what they meant. Hence, every time I read this "every immigrant ..." nonsense . . . it's just mind boggling.

I'm not disputing that. I believe that there are people out there who believe every undocumented immigrant should be given a chance, regardless of their criminal history.

And i'm telling you that i think that's retarded.

The problem that the immigrant community is facing now is the fact that the definition of "criminal" has now broadly expanded.

What makes you a criminal now? Driving without a license? Manslaughter? Using a fake SSN? Having a DUI? Murder? Assault? All of these are being basically lumped together now.

Some of you on here are probably guilty or have been convicted in the past for minor shit. Or maybe worked using a fake SSN in the past, but were never caught. Those things now make you a criminal under the new executive orders.

Some of these advocates may be trying to say that some of these things don't necessarily make you a criminal, or that they shouldn't deprive you of trying to fix your status.

Obviously a very serious crime should disqualify you, but once again, what's a serious crime to you?

That's the problem.

Smooth 02-26-2017 09:33 PM

Re: ‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address.
 
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Originally Posted by longtimelurker (Post 606587)
Fortunately, your hateful ideologies will never plague the DACAmented community and there are so many DREAMers who feel the same why I do. We will never support that racist man no matter what. Hopefully, the democrats can get their shit together and help us out.

Your post was the epitome of STOCKHOLM SYNDROME, BY THE WAY

Ouch that hurt, c**ito. We are not supporting him che pito guevara. We are trying to be strategically smart because we need DACA, and don't bullshit me man. I bet that your ass will be renewing your DACA as soon as you get the chance if Trump allows it, so do not feed me all this puffery about revolution and idealism. Coil those purist arguments and shove them where the sun don't shine.

It's all hypocrisy because you will be the first one in line applying for any relief the Trump administration gives you. Deny me that.


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