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loken 02-15-2018 06:05 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by lucky (Post 691348)
Back when Trump "ended" DACA I optimistically thought that we would be entering 2018 with GC's. Holy shit do I hate politics.

Same.. Politics is viewed in a whole different ballpark when our lives are dependent on it

Dukem88 02-15-2018 06:06 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by Imthexman (Post 691351)
So I guess CIR is next? Lol

Maybe... Now the big question is... when do these assholes come back from vaca?

IbelieveIcanFly 02-15-2018 06:06 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by sldkfj (Post 691353)
So what happens now?????????

Are they gonna vote on more amendments?
Are they gonna attach it to omnibus?

Are we done?

The question is what are YOU going to do. No deal no daca. We are done.

BeansDreamtoo21 02-15-2018 06:06 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by sldkfj (Post 691353)
So what happens now?????????

Are they gonna vote on more amendments?
Are they gonna attach it to omnibus?

Are we done?


We aren't done yet.

Cyber1964 02-15-2018 06:06 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
What is omnibus?

Transcend 02-15-2018 06:06 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
Haha...this is even more sad and hope-shattering than the 2010 DA vote. All the public support and polls riding on our backs didn't produce a single ray of light. The Senate leadership + Trump have managed to shatter quite spectacularly, the hopes of millions of young immigrants.

Thanks to our Dem leaders' overconfidence, we went from lowballing the Prez with $1.8B to begging him to take $25Billion, then offering to block parental sponsorships...with nothing to show for in conclusion. Now we the dreamers must face the wrath of negligence.

Alfredo93 02-15-2018 06:07 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by sldkfj (Post 691353)
So what happens now?????????

Are they gonna vote on more amendments?
Are they gonna attach it to omnibus?

Are we done?

We wait for the next tweet from Trump. Hopefully he caves on chain migration and Dems/Reps follow.

Trump is basically the middle man who can solve it.

God help us.

Swim19 02-15-2018 06:07 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 691344)
It will force Corporate Dems out. They need to be punished like 2016 to understand they can't get away with their fraud.

Right because GOP aren't bought as well? lol
You need to get non-corporate Democrats to replace them, not GOP.

IbelieveIcanFly 02-15-2018 06:08 PM

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GOP LA Sen Kennedy on immigration/DACA votes: "As far as I’m concerned, we’re done with this issue...I’m ready to move on.”

libertarian1776 02-15-2018 06:08 PM

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The White House has been telling Republican senators that it expects the Supreme Court to overturn the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling extending protections for undocumented immigrants under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. The implication is that what is now an indefinite grace period would quickly disappear — and that Democrats would be without leverage and forced to accept more Republican demands in order to codify DACA

Ianus 02-15-2018 06:09 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by lucky (Post 691348)
Back when Trump "ended" DACA I optimistically thought that we would be entering 2018 with GC's. Holy shit do I hate politics.

QFT in bold.

I mentioned in another thread if 10 years they have not advanced legislation what made this time different? I have not seen one legit specific answer...than "You'll see!". In addition, I mentioned it is best to look to the courts as a balance....which has proven true with both Federal judges.

Alfredo93 02-15-2018 06:09 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 691363)
Right because GOP aren't bought as well? lol
You need to get non-corporate Democrats to replace them, not GOP.

Non-Corporate Dems like Bernie Sanders who wanted a clean Dream Act?

in_the_shadow 02-15-2018 06:09 PM

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Here’s a real quote from Donald Trump about DACA from last month. I want to dedicate it to all of you trying to blame the Democrats.

It's impossible to get anything done with a lunatic in the White House who's being manipulated by the likes of Steve Miller and John Kelly.

Nothing will ever get done about DACA with Trump in the White House because he doesn't want us in this country.

He cancelled it and refused to sign a bipartisan deal. End of story.

IbelieveIcanFly 02-15-2018 06:09 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 691365)
The White House has been telling Republican senators that it expects the Supreme Court to overturn the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling extending protections for undocumented immigrants under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. The implication is that what is now an indefinite grace period would quickly disappear — and that Democrats would be without leverage and forced to accept more Republican demands in order to codify DACA

Of course they will. Get your RENEWALS IN QUICK!

catportal 02-15-2018 06:12 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by in_the_shadow (Post 691368)
Here’s a real quote from Donald Trump about DACA from last month. I want to dedicate it to all of you trying to blame the Democrats.

It's impossible to get anything done with a lunatic in the White House who's being manipulated by the likes of Steve Miller and John Kelly.

Nothing will ever get done about DACA with Trump in the White House because he doesn't want us in this country.

He cancelled it and refused to sign a bipartisan deal. End of story.

Last I checked 'Donald Trump' isn't a Senator.

Alfredo93 02-15-2018 06:13 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by IbelieveIcanFly (Post 691369)
Of course they will. Get your RENEWALS IN QUICK!

Its about to get nastier.

catportal 02-15-2018 06:13 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 691363)
Right because GOP aren't bought as well? lol
You need to get non-corporate Democrats to replace them, not GOP.

Nah Dems had a chance in 2009, instead they passed the free handout to insurance companies bill. No thanks.

justjohnjustice1988 02-15-2018 06:13 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by in_the_shadow (Post 691325)
That's all folks, no immigration bill can ever pass with Trump and Miller in the White House. I knew that from the very beginning. These people are animals and couldn't care less about us.

Absolutely!

Time to mobilize and hand the Dems the US House of Representatives, even though tye Dems fucked up, at least they would allow us to naturalize.

Fucking Trump and his neo nazi minions better start packing cause as of today this Presidents approval ratings are in the low 40s (43 approve, 53 disapprove)

Lets hope the Dems dpnt fuck it up and nominate a total leftist in 2020 unable to bring together disgruntled "centrist" Republicans and "winniable" Independents.

The enemy of your enemy is your best ally...aka the dummbie dems

JJ Glo 02-15-2018 06:14 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 691365)
The White House has been telling Republican senators that it expects the Supreme Court to overturn the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling extending protections for undocumented immigrants under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. The implication is that what is now an indefinite grace period would quickly disappear — and that Democrats would be without leverage and forced to accept more Republican demands in order to codify DACA

So their plan is to now demand more? lmao. We're screwed.

Busybee 02-15-2018 06:14 PM

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Who needs a beer to unwind from this bullshit? I got the first round... lol

catportal 02-15-2018 06:15 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 691376)
So their plan is to now demand more? lmao. We're screwed.

It's as if Dems want that for midterms... hmm...

Copper 02-15-2018 06:15 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 691365)
The White House has been telling Republican senators that it expects the Supreme Court to overturn the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling extending protections for undocumented immigrants under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. The implication is that what is now an indefinite grace period would quickly disappear — and that Democrats would be without leverage and forced to accept more Republican demands in order to codify DACA


I doubt Democrats will cave. Schumer would love to see us getting deported just so they can rile up some votes come 2018 midterms. This was his exact words...

Quote:

Schumer: “lets wait till March 5 and when dreamers start getting deported it will rally the nation”
This will definitely be the battle of the “blame” game.

Transcend 02-15-2018 06:17 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by in_the_shadow (Post 691368)
Here’s a real quote from Donald Trump about DACA from last month. I want to dedicate it to all of you trying to blame the Democrats.

It's impossible to get anything done with a lunatic in the White House who's being manipulated by the likes of Steve Miller and John Kelly.

Nothing will ever get done about DACA with Trump in the White House because he doesn't want us in this country.

He cancelled it and refused to sign a bipartisan deal. End of story.

You are quite right. However, the Dems had a very solid chance of reaching a deal with him when they introduced the bill after the Jan meeting. They squandered it when TPS was added on to our issue and the wall funding was way below the $18Billion they were initially asking for.

When your starting offer is sooo low that it makes you disgusted, ofc it'll piss you off and poisons the good faith negotiations.

Cyber1964 02-15-2018 06:18 PM

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There is no reason why Democrats should cave in. They got nothing to lose while Trump is not getting his wall and as well get shitstorm when Dreamers start getting deported.

Alfredo93 02-15-2018 06:18 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by Transcend (Post 691380)
You are quite right. However, the Dems had a very solid chance of reaching a deal with him when they introduced the bill after the Jan meeting. They squandered it when TPS was added on to our issue and the wall funding was way below the $18Billion they were initially asking for.

When your starting offer is sooo low that it makes you disgusted, ofc it'll piss you off and poisons the good faith negotiations.

And then Durbin leaked the Shithole comment and here we are now..... lmaoo

bettertomorrow1 02-15-2018 06:19 PM

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I just got back from school.... theres no way I can go through 50+ pages... can anyone update me on what has happened so far today?

justjohnjustice1988 02-15-2018 06:19 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 691372)
Last I checked 'Donald Trump' isn't a Senator.

But he specifically threaten to veto anything short of his Grassley bill.

Senators dont like to be dictated by the Executive to solely approve or disapprove. Debate and compromise are the only way the Senate can pass anything.

Trump sunk the whole process with his veto threat.

He obviously doesnt know how to govern. All he has gotten done was the tax bill, and that is highly unpopular.

I hope former Vice President Joe Biden runs. He is our only hope for 2020

Baneling 02-15-2018 06:19 PM

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Yes, please update the first post with the results. I'm looking everywhere to see what the results are.

NotADreamerPerSe 02-15-2018 06:19 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by bettertomorrow1 (Post 691383)
I just got back from school.... theres no way I can go through 50+ pages... can anyone update me on what has happened so far today?

Everything failed on the Senate floor. We are screwed bigly.

JJ Glo 02-15-2018 06:20 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by bettertomorrow1 (Post 691383)
I just got back from school.... theres no way I can go through 50+ pages... can anyone update me on what has happened so far today?

All of the amendments failed to get 60 votes. Immigration debate is over for now.

Dukem88 02-15-2018 06:20 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by bettertomorrow1 (Post 691383)
I just got back from school.... theres no way I can go through 50+ pages... can anyone update me on what has happened so far today?

We got fucking boned. all 3 bills failed.

Copper 02-15-2018 06:22 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/p6NtAYb.jpg

Cyber1964 02-15-2018 06:23 PM

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Bipartisan immigration amendment FAILS in the Senate (each need 60 to pass):
1- (FAILS 52-47) McCain-Coons (Just #DACA + Border)
2- (FAILS 54-45) Toomey (penalized sanctuary cities)
3- (FAILS 54-45) Rounds-King (bipartisan bill)
4- (FAILS 60 39)> Grassley (Pres Trump's framework)

justjohnjustice1988 02-15-2018 06:23 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by Transcend (Post 691380)
You are quite right. However, the Dems had a very solid chance of reaching a deal with him when they introduced the bill after the Jan meeting. They squandered it when TPS was added on to our issue and the wall funding was way below the $18Billion they were initially asking for.

When your starting offer is sooo low that it makes you disgusted, ofc it'll piss you off and poisons the good faith negotiations.

Good point but guess what? The Collins bill was a compromise that could have been amended but pussy Rep Senators (except the brave 8 that voted for it) backed away, even people like Sen. Hatch, Sen. Corker, Sen. Heller. Those 3 could have put the billmpver the top but chose the partisan approach by the White House which only got 39 yay votes.

I tell ya...this government is fucked up.

Independent for life!

bettertomorrow1 02-15-2018 06:24 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 691387)
All of the amendments failed to get 60 votes. Immigration debate is over for now.

Just like that?? They wont keep talking about it tomorrow or next week?

beingoflight 02-15-2018 06:25 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
Trump said he had a last resort for us time ago, lets see what he pulls.

Copper 02-15-2018 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 691393)
Trump said he had a last resort for us time ago, lets see what he pulls.

Trump has said a lot of things, I don’t know why anyone would still believe a word he says.

Ghoster 02-15-2018 06:27 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 691393)
Trump said he had a last resort for us time ago, lets see what he pulls.

He'll just blame the dems and call it a day.

justjohnjustice1988 02-15-2018 06:27 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by Baneling (Post 691385)
Yes, please update the first post with the results. I'm looking everywhere to see what the results are.

google it lazy ass...

senate.gov

Seriously, most of u people barely know how to use google...stop making yourself seem so ignorant

Cyber1964 02-15-2018 06:27 PM

Re: Our lives are in hands of 100 people starting at 2:30
 
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Originally Posted by bettertomorrow1 (Post 691392)
Just like that?? They wont keep talking about it tomorrow or next week?

Not until people start getting deported and there is a big shitstorm.


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