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Sonawabich 04-24-2010 04:56 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
He might seem to have nothing to lose but to let his work of many years go down the drain won't be comfortable for any reasonable man. He's reluctant of CIR bill cus with all said and done, he's gonna have to vote for it. Obama should send whatever troops McCain demanding, beef up the border with any way he can so McCain can say he MADE the President do this. That way he'll have political capital to play with

warhound 04-24-2010 04:58 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
I totally agree with your assessment. Obama needs to grow cajones. send the national guard, seal the fucking border. Put navy ships on Sand. F-22's on patrol .. do whatever the hell it takes.

Heck if he dosnt have money, he can have some of mine to finance it. BUT:

Do not give those bigots ONE damn reason to vote against a CIR bill when introduced (namely: borders not secure)

Sonawabich 04-24-2010 05:08 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
Agreed.

Please send troops to the border. But before sending, Obama SHOULD make a deal with Kyl & McCain for them to support CIR. This is the crucial part

DA User 04-24-2010 05:09 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
CIR is next on the agenda not the Climate bill. Read the other article I posted on 'TRENDING....'.

Ianus 04-24-2010 05:22 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
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Originally Posted by lilbawler2001 (Post 156210)
How much do you want to bet that McCain is behind Graham's decision to not pursue a CIR this year.

It's funny but I said something similar yesterday concerning Graham.
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Maybe I'm looking too much into this as a cynic,but I also get the impression Graham is not being that honest either.He works on "Bi-partisan" proposals & then when the next issue shows up declares everything he has worked with Democrats dead on arrival,I mean come on it is part his compromise as well ! I get the impression Graham & the Republicans cover use this as a guise under "Bi-partisanship" since he is the 'point man' for "negotiations",lol.
Regardless of whatever the true "treason" is Graham is THE issue.
@DaUser,I don't think so considering it is the Majority leader that sets the schedule & the article states whichever bill comes first.Climate change legislation is being introduced next week Monday & so far I've heard nothing about Immigration even Graham himself said in a recent article on here that,"what do you want me to do,create a bill by Monday" or something similar to that affect.

warhound 04-24-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
Problem is... the CIR isnt just amnesty and nothing else. It Particularly calls for a secure border.

So if republicans denounce CIR they are denouncing the amnesty part not the secure the borders part. If obama gives into secure borders part beforehand there is no telling if they will support the bill then since the federal government by law was supposed to secure the border anyways

DA User 04-24-2010 05:30 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
CIR is very much next according to the latest articles.

WhiteNoise 04-24-2010 05:38 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 156246)
CIR is very much next according to the latest articles.

... Source?

Jelly Bean Lover 04-24-2010 07:35 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonawabich (Post 156235)
Agreed.

Please send troops to the border. But before sending, Obama SHOULD make a deal with Kyl & McCain for them to support CIR. This is the crucial part

This is a really interesting tactic to get the bill through. The one little thing I wonder is whether McCain could really be trusted to keep a promise if the primary in Arizona were to remain close.

By the way, did anyone ever notice that Hayworth looks like a comic book villain or something? I can't believe McCain has not been smarter about hitting Hayworth hard for the scandals that led him to lose his seat in Congress the last time around to a Democrat. It makes one wonder what in the world the people of Arizona could be thinking. I drove through Arizona last year to get to California and it seemed like a perfectly nice place--I even thought I might not mind living there when I became an old man--but I am beginning to seriously question that idea now. There must be something wrong with the water there.

Sonawabich 04-24-2010 07:53 PM

Re: Reid: Climate bill could come before immigration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean Lover (Post 156264)
This is a really interesting tactic to get the bill through. The one little thing I wonder is whether McCain could really be trusted to keep a promise if the primary in Arizona were to remain close.

By the way, did anyone ever notice that Hayworth looks like a comic book villain or something? I can't believe McCain has not been smarter about hitting Hayworth hard for the scandals that led him to lose his seat in Congress the last time around to a Democrat. It makes one wonder what in the world the people of Arizona could be thinking. I drove through Arizona last year to get to California and it seemed like a perfectly nice place--I even thought I might not mind living there when I became an old man--but I am beginning to seriously question that idea now. There must be something wrong with the water there.

If in case there is a deal McCain has to follow through. I assume there is an unwritten law in politics that if you make a deal you ought to complete your end of the bargain. Or else McCain can forget about future deals and his credibility (if there's any left at all) would be severely damaged not necessarily among constituents but among politicians of either isle.


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