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Re: Obama Supports DREAM Act: "Let's Make Sure Those Kids Can Stay"

I don't think your words were poorly chosen considering some of the simpletons on this site. In fact, it's probably more generous than what I would've said if I gave a shit lol.

What we need is more constructive advocacy and discussion (which exists) and less of the melodramatic bitches on here. OMG this article is sad, OMG this article is ok. Jesus.

Re: Obama Supports DREAM Act: "Let's Make Sure Those Kids Can Stay"

I agree with Hewleet. Learning about the issue before commenting would be a great for some here....

Re: Obama Supports DREAM Act: "Let's Make Sure Those Kids Can Stay"

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 224158)

Obama is a sweet talker and he hasnt done shit. No executive order..the one thing under his control..power hungry typical crook

Dream Act was very close to passage last December. Closer then ever.

Now, he pushing for CIR and DA. EO could be mean he might not get elected and/or could get impeached. This is his 1st term.

Re: Obama Supports DREAM Act: "Let's Make Sure Those Kids Can Stay"

Hewlett, DA User, and Erik ,

Did Secure Communities worry you in any way? I can tell you that the program made my life a LIVING HELL. Considering that I have to drive to campus and work, I WAS subject to deportation for a minor traffic violation.Of course, things are a little less scary now thanks to the memorandum that Morton (and I would like to think that Obama ordered) issued.

Clearly, Obama's lack of leadership on immigration and his implementation of Secure Communities, which made me and my family members MORE vulnerable to deportation, really pissed me off. So, my discontent was justified and logical.

In what way do all of you say that Obama critics, such as myself, need to be schooled on the topic of immgration?

How can you argue that he has shown leadership on immigration? Before you answer, compare the level of leadership he exerted on FEDERAL SPENDING. Many legislators from both sides polarized the debate by involving the issues of, for instance, planned parent hood and abortion. Yet, Obama's leadership made both parties reach an agreement. On immigration, I have not seen that type of leadership. If you have, please enlighten me through examples. So, I have to agree with 2Face on Obama's rhetoric. We have only heard beautiful rhetoric but insufficient action on immigration.

Rhetoric and the Public Sphere
Has Deliberative Democracy Abandoned Mass Democracy?

http://ptx.sagepub.com/content/37/3/...=1&ssource=mfc

Article touches on an important issue on rhetoric that 2Face touched on. Good article to read if you can get access to it.

Re: Obama Supports DREAM Act: "Let's Make Sure Those Kids Can Stay"

Immigration alone is a major issue so it needs a lot of time. Obama is doing what Americans want that is to fix the economy first.

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Originally Posted by Boulevard (Post 224191)

Hewlett, DA User, and Erik ,

Did Secure Communities worry you in any way? I can tell you that the program made my life a LIVING HELL. Considering that I have to drive to campus and work, I WAS subject to deportation for a minor traffic violation.Of course, things are a little less scary now thanks to the memorandum that Morton (and I would like to think that Obama ordered) issued.

Clearly, Obama's lack of leadership on immigration and his implementation of Secure Communities, which made me and my family members MORE vulnerable to deportation, really pissed me off. So, my discontent was justified and logical.

In what way do all of you say that Obama critics, such as myself, need to be schooled on the topic of immgration?

How can you argue that he has shown leadership on immigration? Before you answer, compare the level of leadership he exerted on FEDERAL SPENDING. Many legislators from both sides polarized the debate by involving the issues of, for instance, planned parent hood and abortion. Yet, Obama's leadership made both parties reach an agreement. On immigration, I have not seen that type of leadership. If you have, please enlighten me through examples. So, I have to agree with 2Face and Obama's rhetoric. We have only heard beautiful rhetoric but insufficient action on immigration.

Rhetoric and the Public Sphere
Has Deliberative Democracy Abandoned Mass Democracy?

http://ptx.sagepub.com/content/37/3/...=1&ssource=mfc

Article touches on an important issue on rhetoric that 2Face touched on. Good article to read if you can get access to it.

Re: Obama Supports DREAM Act: "Let's Make Sure Those Kids Can Stay"

Yes, it needs alot of time, so he should of multi-tasked and started working on CIR in his first two years.

In the first two years, Obama said that what Americans wanted was economic improvement--correct if I am wrong. Well, the economy is still stagnant, so what made Americans change their mind?

Re: Obama Supports DREAM Act: "Let's Make Sure Those Kids Can Stay"

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Originally Posted by Boulevard (Post 224195)

He did. There were several bills introduced. He also took office in The Great Recession.
Also the Dream Act was introduced on 9/12/01.

Re: Obama Supports DREAM Act: "Let's Make Sure Those Kids Can Stay"

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 224337)

He did. There were several bills introduced. He also took office in The Great Recession.
Also the Dream Act was introduced on 9/12/01.

Excuse me. But, he did not introduce those pieces of legislation. He might have told Democratic senators to present those measures; however, all of us know that he has not pressured congress on immigration like has on other measures.

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In terms of your agrument on economic recession, the economy is not doing any better now.