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Dres2011 07-23-2011 10:54 PM

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Supporting Obama while he's threatening Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid cuts :\. He's just playing US and the Latino base with this DREAM Act support, we'll see how much he'll bend over for the Republicans next week. Deficit plan will decide if he has a chance at the being re-elected or not.

yaystarcraft 07-23-2011 11:13 PM

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blah blah blah

dexterchach 07-23-2011 11:32 PM

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This is a forum related to immigration. on that note, Obama has NOT DONE ONE THING. oh wait, nvm. he HAS done plenty. he's set the record for the most deportations in 1 year! WOOOOHOOO Obama rules!!!

Boulevard 07-24-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MaskedLuchador (Post 227881)
I can't wait until he's out of the White House. He's probably the worst President of all time. Sure, I can already hear you guys saying that he's trying and that George W. Bush is the worst President of all time but no, just no. At least Bush did something. Obama is a joke. All he did was get healthcare reform passed and nothing else.

In terms of making our lives a living hell for the past 2 years, he is the worst president, especially when he promised he would act on CIR in his first two years. Bush, indeed, did exert more efforts on CIR at the end of his term than Obama has.

ECW 07-24-2011 12:09 AM

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It is beyond unacceptable that DREAM did not pass during the 111th congress, democrats controlled the house, the senate and the white house. Mark my words DREAM or any other immigration legalization bill will never pass until democrats controls all 3 again, no matter now much border security or e verify they put in it. For those who have been on this forum long enough, I said it during the entire campaign in 2007-2008 and got lot of heat from member here when I said it "do not buy into this hope and change bullshit" Now you see, when the campaign is done and all the hype has settle this is what we get. When was the last time you heard the president say "Yes We Can" or where is the "Change" we can believe in...?

Boulevard 07-24-2011 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by QVictoria (Post 227888)
It really gets me mad when people say that Obama didn't do anything for this country except pass healthcare reform or that he's "probably" the worse President in history. Well to all those out there who think Obama has not done s***, i guess he didn't repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and I guess he didn't pass Wall Street Reform, and I guess he didn't put a cap on the BP oil spill and oh wait, here's the big one...I ALSO GUESS HE DIDN'T CATCH OSAMA BIN LADEN! So let me guess, these are all things that the Republicans did and they should get credit for. WOW! Some people just prove that truly a mind is a terrible thing to waste. Listen, Obama is the only chance immigrants have in order to getting the Dream Act or Immigration Reform passed if he is not re-elected. If some chance a Republican is in the white house, God Help Us All because everybody and their mother and grandmother will be deported. The sad part is even if you don't have a criminal record, just being caught alone is a first class trip to a detention center and then deported. So please people, be smart about the change you want and look at things for the long term and not the short. Thank!;-):grin:8-):lol:

For the first bolded part, Obama did get many things done, but how has the undocumented community benefited from these accomplishments?

The second bolded part: Excuse me, are you aware that Obama ordered the implementation of Secure Communities, which basically made our lives a living hell by making us subject to deportation for minor traffic violations? When the program was only intended to deport criminal undocumented individuals, ICE officials actually deported more non-criminal undocumented individuals than those with a criminal history. With this data, Obama did not publicly declare intervention; he did not do anything to stop the program. Of course, the program has slightly changed due to a memorandum that Morton issued, and, as I recall, Obama has not received any credit for this order (despite Lamar Smith's accusations), making me assume that Obama really did not care that he was making our lives a living hell. So, Obama has exposed us to the nightmare of a scenario that you claim Republicans would bring on us if they were to dominate the legislative and the executive branches after 2012. Hence, he is the worst president in terms of "helping" our community. I know he had to address other issues, but he could of at least halted Secure Communities as soon as he knew that the program was not doing what it was intended to do: deport CRIMINAL undocumented people.

P.S. Just as a short personal testimony, the program made my family's life a living hell before Morton's memorandum. My relatives have to drive to work, and I have to drive to campus because border patrol conducts operations in my city's public transportation system. We were scared to hell that we might be stopped by a cop for, as an example, not making a COMPLETE stop at a four-way-stop and then be handed over to an ICE offical for deportation. Life at that time was EFEN scary because we had so much to lose. So, I am sorry if you still admire Obama, but the undocumented community has greatly suffered under this guy, a situation that is difficult to understand given that, as ECW, highlighted promised change and would use the word "Si Se Puede." Cesar Chavez must be rolling over in his grave.

solidsnake 07-24-2011 12:22 AM

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The day he holds a news conference, that interrupts regularly scheduled programming and addresses immigration or dream act with a plan is when I will truly show an ounce of excitement.

DreamerSD23 07-24-2011 12:31 AM

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For the ones who keep saying they don't want Obama to be re-elected, then who do you want besides him?

The Democrat won't choose anyone but him to run, he has no competition from the Democratic side. You're just dreaming if you think a Democrat will run against him.

So the only ones left are from the Republican side, do YOU REALLY WANT ONE OF THEM ELECTED????

All of the current front-runners from the Republican side are all against legalization.

So, tell me, who do you want instead of Obama???

Bachmann, Romney, Cain, Pawlenty, Santorum, or Paul????

Seriously, if you say you don't want Obama to be re-elected, then you're just saying you want to sign your own deportation order.

Boulevard 07-24-2011 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by solidsnake (Post 227905)
The day he holds a news conference, that interrupts regularly scheduled programming and addresses immigration or dream act with a plan is when I will truly show an ounce of excitement.

I agree. When he talks about immigration, his rhetoric is always vague and disturbingly annoying.

Boulevard 07-24-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 (Post 227906)
For the ones who keep saying they don't want Obama to be re-elected, then who do you want besides him?

The Democrat won't choose anyone but him to run, he has no competition from the Democratic side. You're just dreaming if you think a Democrat will run against him.

So the only ones left are from the Republican side, do YOU REALLY WANT ONE OF THEM ELECTED????

All of the current front-runners from the Republican side are all against legalization.

So, tell me, who do you want instead of Obama???

Bachmann, Romney, Cain, Pawlenty, Santorum, or Paul????

Seriously, if you say you don't want Obama to be re-elected, then you're just saying you want to sign your own deportation order.

If Obama gets re-elected, that's fine. All I am saying is that he can at least back off/stop terrorizing us with stupid programs if he has not going to pressure for CIR. Of course, you could say that what can the poor guy do? Excuse me, he brags about his high level of determination, which he has demonstrated on other topics, sometimes resulting in bipartisanship. But, he has yet to demonstrate that high level of determination on CIR.

Cain is an EFEN idiot. He comes out with all this rule of law rhetoric. Excuse me, you (Cain) troll. You want to talk about the rule of law? Segregation was the rule of law, yet I bet his friends and distant relatives mobilized against it just as we mobilize for legalization. To paraphrase Rep. Gutierrez, a law is not fair simply because it is law. Some laws are unfair, and it is our (Congress) duty to change laws when they are unjust


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