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IamAman 05-04-2015 06:52 PM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
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Originally Posted by dreamerperson (Post 558237)
This ^^^

Spoiler Alert: Obama's not the problem. The vast majority of Democrats are not the problem here. Yes, the timing could have been better insofar as putting an immigration reform bill to Congress, but ultimately, do you really think a Republican majority like the one we have now would really pass such a bill without it being punitive?

It's this kind of attitude that is unfortunately pervasive among young, voter-eligible USC and why voter turnout among people 18-30 is so low. There IS a difference between the Democrats and Republicans, in spite of what one would believe.

I'll be the first to stand in line and say I wish immigration was the #1 priority. I wish they would have gone after immigration reform instead of healthcare reform while they had the house and the senate. I wish DACA wouldn't have had an age restriction from the start. That still doesn't change the fact that Republicans are the ones holding back immigration reform now. It's not complicated.

Kari096 05-04-2015 09:06 PM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
I will say this once again: any presidential candidate who wants to remove DACA and replace it with immigration reform, especially one that does not create a path to citizenship and focuses on meeting border security requirements before said legal status IS LYING! Republicans are not interested in passing immigration reform. It frustrates me when dreamers somewhat believe them. Immigration is an issue, may it is one Dems like to have in their back pocket, but it's one republicans don't want to do anything about besides demonize us!

zalmoxe 05-04-2015 10:42 PM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
REPUBLICANS are lying. Don't ever be fooled by Republicans!!!!

Demise 05-04-2015 10:44 PM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 558234)
This is too cynical and the facts don't support it. It's like an angsty teenager walking around saying "everything sucks, man" .
The immigration bill passed the then Democrat Senate and Obama was going to sign it. If the Republicans would have brought it to a vote and it passed (which some say it would have), do you really think Obama would have vetoed it?

Hard not to grow fucking cynical when you watch this circus go on for years.

dreamact9090 05-04-2015 11:26 PM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
I am not taking sides... i am just being optimistic about immigration reform... of course i hate republicans but i just hope that this isn't a lie... once demo takes the office, i hope we won't have to wait anymore...

NK74 05-05-2015 04:29 AM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
To be fair, Bush isn't lying. He does want immigration reform. He just massages his message by lobbing accusations at Obama in order to win over his audience.

Still, if he's elected president, the problem still lies with the House Republicans.

dreamerperson 05-05-2015 12:48 PM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
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Originally Posted by NK74 (Post 558273)
To be fair, Bush isn't lying. He does want immigration reform. He just massages his message by lobbing accusations at Obama in order to win over his audience.

Still, if he's elected president, the problem still lies with the House Republicans.

True, of the Republicans, he's the one who is most genuine in that position. The concern lies with the Republican caucus.

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 558244)
I'll be the first to stand in line and say I wish immigration was the #1 priority. I wish they would have gone after immigration reform instead of healthcare reform while they had the house and the senate. I wish DACA wouldn't have had an age restriction from the start. That still doesn't change the fact that Republicans are the ones holding back immigration reform now. It's not complicated.

I think that we can all agree on. I wish it was priority #1. The age maximum restriction should not have been put in place, I agree. Why is a person 30+ years of age, who otherwise has been here since they were kids, any less deserving of DACA?

Anyway, let's just say that at the end of the day, we're all dreamers here and want the same thing.

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-05-2015 11:55 PM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
With congress controlled by republicans, no president will pass an immigration reform bill. Never, a bill would be come to voting

pink 05-06-2015 02:24 AM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
Says the guy from the party that wants to deport us all. Oh the irony!

johnfreyan 05-06-2015 06:21 AM

Re: Bush: Obama Doesn't Want Immigration Reform
 
Says the guy who wants to take away DACA. Seriously, any dreamer who supports Jeb Bush when he flat out said he will cancel DACA should just voluntarily give up their Deferred Action status. You know, as a sign of support for the guy WHO WANTS TO CANCEL DACA.


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