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Polska1 01-13-2017 02:37 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
I'm afraid if trump ends daca that we all get deported back to our countries

JohannBernoulli1667 01-13-2017 02:45 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polska1 (Post 596311)
I'm afraid if trump ends daca that we all get deported back to our countries

We understand, it is unlikely.

Relax, you will not be deported but you might lose your working privileges and depending where you are driving privileges as well at least for a while.

dreamerperson 01-13-2017 02:52 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Yeah that's the biggest fear for me

jaylove16 01-13-2017 02:54 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
With all the positive news we've been getting lately, people are still acting like nothing has changed. Remember right after the elections there was NO hope. So stop being negative Nancys and be prepared for a fight! I wish Paul Ryan would have said something negative like yea we are going to deport all daca recepients so that you guys can be happy.

Dreamernb87 01-13-2017 02:58 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 596312)
We understand, it is unlikely.

Relax, you will not be deported but you might lose your working privileges and depending where you are driving privileges as well at least for a while.

Ending DACA does not necessary mean losing your working privileges (EAD). Unless he purposely rescinds them.

Ianus 01-13-2017 03:04 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamernb87 (Post 596315)
Ending DACA does not necessary mean losing your working privileges (EAD). Unless he purposely rescinds them.

From what I can see, ending DACA can mean many things.

-End the Program...

-End the Program, but still process renewals that have been accepted or grandfathered

-End the program and stop processing renewals but keep current EADs

-End the Program, stop processing renewals and rescind current EADs

Huge note: The President elect has said he will end DACA, but he has not mentioned anything about Deferred Action itself on a limited basis.

Many of the first dreamers who gained Deferred Action applied directly by lobbying the Secretary of Homeland Security, Chertoff. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. That is the danger of discretion!

Dreamernb87 01-13-2017 03:09 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 596316)
From what I can see, ending DACA can mean many things.

-End the Program...

-End the Program, but still process renewals that have been accepted or grandfathered

-End the program and stop processing renewals but keep current EADs

-End the Program, stop processing renewals and rescind current EADs

Huge note: The President elect has said he will end DACA, but he has not mentioned anything about Deferred Action itself on a limited basis.

Many of the first dreamers who gained Deferred Action applied directly by lobbying the Secretary of Homeland Security, Chertoff. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. That is the danger of discretion!

This is most likely the outcome. He will end the program, but if you have it, good for you... it seems to be the American/Republican way.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-13-2017 03:20 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Ending daca means a lot of things

Is Trump talking about i821D? Or i765?

We can only get i765 through i821D but trump can't just say oh and i765 has to go too.


Because we can only get i765 through i821D and if that ends, it won't mean our EADS are invalid. I don't understand the full process but it won't be an easy task for trump. Unless he did some EO cancelling and ending like that. But that would be political sucide

Dreamernb87 01-13-2017 03:28 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 596318)
Ending daca means a lot of things

Is Trump talking about i821D? Or i765?

We can only get i765 through i821D but trump can't just say oh and i765 has to go too.


Because we can only get i765 through i821D and if that ends, it won't mean our EADS are invalid. I don't understand the full process but it won't be an easy task for trump. Unless he did some EO cancelling and ending like that. But that would be political sucide


Implying that Trump knows the difference.

DACA will be decided depending on how Trump feels that day.

I can picture it going like this..

Monday

Trump's transition team: Mr. Trump, what should we do about Obama's ILLEGAL amnesty!?
Trump: END IT!!
Trump's transition team: What about those who already have it?
Trump: I don't care, good for them


or


Friday

Trump's transition team: Mr. Trump, what should we do about Obama's ILLEGAL amnesty!?
Trump: Work something out, They got brought here at a very young age, they’ve worked here, they’ve gone to school here. Some were good students. Some have wonderful jobs, just wonderful, the best.
Trump's transition team: So what we should do?
Trump: I don't care, ignore it.

My point being, I bet there is no "deep" or "thorough" consideration of the pros and cons of ending DACA from the Trump administration, it will be a spur of the moment thing... decided by Trump.

Polska1 01-13-2017 03:29 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamernb87 (Post 596317)
This is most likely the outcome. He will end the program, but if you have it, good for you... it seems to be the American/Republican way.

But the main problem for me is that I have car payments and other bills to pay and if daca ends and my EAD expires then I am screwed.


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