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ceaguila 09-19-2017 08:59 PM

Re: DREAM Act Letter in Response to CIYJA actions
 
Who do we sent this to?

zara12 09-19-2017 09:16 PM

Re: DREAM Act Letter in Response to CIYJA actions
 
I also believe the "C' in Congress should be in caps each time.....and border security in lower case each time.

Again, I think we should say emphasize we want a bipartisan deal...and not say we are open to compromise or necessarily "want" border security.

Edits:

At the moment, we don’t know the details in the border security package about to be introduced in congress. However, we strongly support legislation that offers the Dream Act and fully secures the border in a smart way. Not with a useless 2,000 mile concrete wall, but with a mix of technology and manpower. We understand the amount of suffering that cartel border crime creates in both the United States and Mexico.

To be clear, we support Border Security and not Interior Enforcement. We do not support a deportation force that will rip apart our families and will create suffering in the immigrant community.

DACA recipients and immigrant youth are witnesses (or evidence of?) of the hard work and sacrifices that our parents have made. However, we are not sellouts by endorsing border security, nor are we advocating for anyone in the immigrant community to be deported. We believe that we will be in a much better position to help our parents if we obtain legal status and eventual citizenship.

We strongly encourage other dreamer groups to be respectful. We are now standing in front of the greatest opportunity to kick start immigration reform in three decades. A Dream Act and Border Security deal is without a doubt a small but smart step to break the immigration reform stalemate.

Dreamers are extremely thankful for the opportunities that this beautiful country has given us. We look forward to keep contributing to this amazing society. (perhaps say continue to contribute?)

isk84life 09-19-2017 09:26 PM

Re: DREAM Act Letter in Response to CIYJA actions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zara12 (Post 641794)
I also believe the "C' in Congress should be in caps each time.....and border security in lower case each time.

Again, I think we should say emphasize we want a bipartisan deal...and not say we are open to compromise or necessarily "want" border security.

Edits:

At the moment, we don’t know the details in the border security package about to be introduced in congress. However, we strongly support legislation that offers the Dream Act and fully secures the border in a smart way. Not with a useless 2,000 mile concrete wall, but with a mix of technology and manpower. We understand the amount of suffering that cartel border crime creates in both the United States and Mexico.

To be clear, we support Border Security and not Interior Enforcement. We do not support a deportation force that will rip apart our families and will create suffering in the immigrant community.

DACA recipients and immigrant youth are witnesses (or evidence of?) of the hard work and sacrifices that our parents have made. However, we are not sellouts by endorsing border security, nor are we advocating for anyone in the immigrant community to be deported. We believe that we will be in a much better position to help our parents if we obtain legal status and eventual citizenship.

We strongly encourage other dreamer groups to be respectful. We are now standing in front of the greatest opportunity to kick start immigration reform in three decades. A Dream Act and Border Security deal is without a doubt a small but smart step to break the immigration reform stalemate.

Dreamers are extremely thankful for the opportunities that this beautiful country has given us. We look forward to keep contributing to this amazing society. (perhaps say continue to contribute?)

Great edits, thank you. I'm not sure about the evidence one tho.

We need to hurry up or we will lose momentum. Edits will be closed at 9pm pacific time. Please make sure other members read the letter so as to assume they are in accordance of what was laid pout in it.

zara12 09-19-2017 09:30 PM

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No worries. Yeah in retrospect I guess "evidence" comes off as too strong/entitled.

These are our suggestions. Will leave it to you tondecide what to incorporate

isk84life 09-19-2017 09:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 641790)
Who do we sent this to?

Currently putting together a list of media outlets.

Swim19 09-19-2017 10:00 PM

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Quote:

At the moment, we don’t know the details in the border security package about to be introduced in congress. However, we strongly support legislation that offers the Dream Act and fully secures the border in a smart way. Not with a useless 2000 mile concrete wall, but with a mix of technology and manpower. We understand the amount of suffering that cartel border crime creates in both the United States and Mexico.

To be clear, we support Border Security and not Interior Enforcement. We do not support a deportation force that will rip apart our families and will create suffering in the immigrant community.

DACA recipients and immigrant youth are witnesses of the hard work and sacrifices that our parents have made. However, we are not sellouts by endorsing border security, nor are we advocating for anyone in the immigrant community to be deported. We believe that we will be in a much better position to help our parents if we obtain legal status and eventual citizenship.
I personally think this whole section needs to be rewritten. We don't know what the DREAM Act - Border Security bill will be. We don't know specifics. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I think you should focus more on the idea of a compromise rather than the specifics of what we agree or disagree with. I don't have time tonight to work on how I would write it, and this is my opinion (so if most people here like it that way that's fine too). I don't think this section gets the message across in the best way. I think another day of editing this will make it stronger.

magdation1 09-19-2017 10:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 641799)
Currently putting together a list of media outlets.

Huffington Post needs to be included -- Ideally, as a response to them publishing the pathetic excuse of CIYJA crashing Pelosi's Press Conference.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000004

isk84life 09-19-2017 11:13 PM

Re: DREAM Act Letter in Response to CIYJA actions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 641811)
I personally think this whole section needs to be rewritten. We don't know what the DREAM Act - Border Security bill will be. We don't know specifics. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I think you should focus more on the idea of a compromise rather than the specifics of what we agree or disagree with. I don't have time tonight to work on how I would write it, and this is my opinion (so if most people here like it that way that's fine too). I don't think this section gets the message across in the best way. I think another day of editing this will make it stronger.

We are literally paraphrasing what the Democratic Party has been saying.

" Schumer added on Tuesday that he is "very optimistic" that Democrats will still be able to get a "good deal" on a DACA fix paired with border security."

StillDreamingNb87 09-20-2017 08:00 AM

Re: DREAM Act Letter in Response to CIYJA actions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 641811)
I personally think this whole section needs to be rewritten. We don't know what the DREAM Act - Border Security bill will be. We don't know specifics. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I think you should focus more on the idea of a compromise rather than the specifics of what we agree or disagree with. I don't have time tonight to work on how I would write it, and this is my opinion (so if most people here like it that way that's fine too). I don't think this section gets the message across in the best way. I think another day of editing this will make it stronger.

Agreed as well.

Also, if we are keeping it as it is, there is an error mistake here

"To be clear, we support border security AND BUT not interior enforcement. We do not support a deportation force that will rip apart our families and will create suffering in the immigrant community. "

With that said, I do support interior enforcement.. I do support deportation of criminals and low lifes, but not of producing members of society.

Swim19 09-20-2017 08:17 AM

Re: DREAM Act Letter in Response to CIYJA actions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 641831)
We are literally paraphrasing what the Democratic Party has been saying.

" Schumer added on Tuesday that he is "very optimistic" that Democrats will still be able to get a "good deal" on a DACA fix paired with border security."

I think it's too wordy, but again it is only my opinion. This is my quick edit before work and the way I would condense two of the paragraphs:

At the moment, we don’t know the details in the border security package about to be introduced in congress. However, we strongly support legislation that offers the Dream Act and fully secures the border in a smart way. Not with a useless 2000 mile concrete wall, but with a mix of technology and manpower. We do not support a deportation force that will rip apart our families and will create suffering in the immigrant community.

And I would delete the entire paragraph below:

DACA recipients and immigrant youth are witnesses of the hard work and sacrifices that our parents have made. However, we are not sellouts by endorsing border security, nor are we advocating for anyone in the immigrant community to be deported. We believe that we will be in a much better position to help our parents if we obtain legal status and eventual citizenship.


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