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g33k 11-25-2017 04:22 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
Clean DA is not the way.

Swim19 11-25-2017 04:30 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 654245)
Trump might agree with them. The problem is what happens when it gets leaked to the media and breitbart chimes in. Trump might change his mind.

Let's hope once an agreement is made Congress can pass it and have Trump sign it before the far right media has time to make a lot of fuss about it.

Smooth 11-25-2017 04:35 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by g33k (Post 654248)
Clean DA is not the way.

It's annoying, but I think those Dems MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE (This is a relevant comment, so don't delete it just because you dislike reality) are bluffing. Plus, the DACA Recipients pushing for compromise are already on their way to DC.

The clean bill orgs will not be the only voice. Even though the centrist caravan is smaller, it will be influential enough to let Dems know that not all Dreamers are on board with a clean bill strategy.

libertarian1776 11-25-2017 04:36 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
dream act as a “clean” provision/amendment to the omnibus has the highest chance of passing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 654248)
Clean DA is not the way.


VJB2 11-25-2017 04:45 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
I think they know that a clean Dream Act won't pass, so their reiteration is merely a hook for Republicans to draft their list and hopefully meet them half way with a compromise.

Either way, never seen anything like this in the previous looooooooong years.

soypana 11-25-2017 04:48 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
Warning: don't read the comments on that article lol... It's full of redneck racists.

Rogue414 11-25-2017 04:51 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
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Originally Posted by soypana (Post 654253)
Warning: don't read the comments on that article lol... It's full of redneck racists.

Fox News.

Smooth 11-25-2017 04:54 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 654251)
dream act as a “clean” provision/amendment to the omnibus has the highest chance of passing.

Wait, what? Please elaborate because the GOP will want funding for some sort of border security measure.

Mostly every politician in D.C. knows that a clean bill amendment passing are slim to none.

libertarian1776 11-25-2017 05:01 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
yeah the GOP can have that too and any other provisions they want in an omnibus bill. (btw, the GOP already got 1.6 million for the border wall, and the McCaul border security bill passed the house already, they just need to work it out in committee when the Senate passes their version.)

democrats dont only want dream act for the omnibus, they also want CHIP, CSR' for the ACA and other issues.

the GOP doesnt have the votes in the house and the senate to avert a govt shutdown.

the Freedom Caucus wont vote for any spending bill that will add to the deficit.

obviously, the Speaker needs Democratic votes in the house.

they also need 8 democrats in the senate.

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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 654256)
Wait, what? Please elaborate because the GOP will want funding for some sort of border security measure.

Mostly every politician in D.C. knows that a clean bill amendment passing are slim to none.


2Fat2Fish 11-25-2017 05:04 PM

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 
Clean is the best way so there is a decent compromise and everyone walks away winning something.


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