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versailles 12-13-2017 05:50 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now
 
just an opinion piece...

JJ Glo 12-13-2017 05:52 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 660119)
If it is part of the Omnibus then rest assured house conservatives will vote against it in large numbers. Which puts the leverage in the laps of house democrats.

Mods can you edit the title?

If.

If they pass the Tax bill first, there is no guarantee it will be on the Omnibus.

uion1715 12-13-2017 05:57 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now
 
Reminder, Democrats: That 2013 shutdown Republicans took a large blame for? Ultimately didn't end up mattering. Shutting down the government (as long as it's not like three-months long) may not have a big political cost as Democrats seem to be afraid of.

ayran123 12-13-2017 06:00 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now
 
I dont think we should dismiss the article completely. Democrats are all talk and they are definately losing leverage over daca solutions. There is absolutely no way republicans will even touch the daca issue next year. Its now or never. Pushing this issue to Jan 2018 is unacceptable and its sad that democrats would not stand up for what they believe in for posibilities in votes and the election.

catportal 12-13-2017 06:35 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now (Opinion)
 
So basically, Dem's don't have the balls to stomach a 'shutdown'. They rolled over and gave up their only leverage. Hope they get destroyed in 2018.

tays123 12-13-2017 06:36 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now (Opinion)
 
538? The website that said Hilary was going to win the election with 80% probability? Sure! Ok.

catportal 12-13-2017 06:43 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now (Opinion)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tays123 (Post 660146)
538? The website that said Hilary was going to win the election with 80% probability? Sure! Ok.

Actually they were the most accurate, they said Hillary was going to win with only ~60% probability. Every other polling org was much more off.

tf2legend 12-13-2017 06:53 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now (Opinion)
 
Chill out there are ongoing talks behind the scenes. It's like night and day here with every article posted.
One day it's like "We're doomed, the world is ending!!" and other day is "We're getting legalized, lets party"!!!

Many members have said they are optimistic they will come to agreement before years end. At this point they have to move fast though.

uion1715 12-13-2017 06:56 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now (Opinion)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tf2legend (Post 660161)
Chill out there are ongoing talks behind the scenes. It's like night and day here with every article posted.
One day it's like "We're doomed, the world is ending!!" and other day is "We're getting legalized, lets party"!!!

Many members have said they are optimistic they will come to agreement before years end. At this point they have to move fast though.

Yeah, I am confident that some kind of a bill will be proposed and (likely) voted on, probably after Dec. 22 but before Jan. 31. The frustration comes from the belief (Mine and many others at least) that Democrats can easily push this timeframe up and guarantee its passage through the spending bill.

SurfyB 12-13-2017 07:03 PM

Re: Democrats Appear To Have Lost The DACA Fight For Now (Opinion)
 
And here I was thinking the victory in Alabama would give them more momentum..


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