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MIdreamer 01-12-2018 09:35 AM

Re: Trump tweet on bipartisan deal
 
We are running out of time for a DACA deal. Even if Trump support the deal now, it still has to go through all the voting process!

Swim19 01-12-2018 09:43 AM

Re: Trump tweet on bipartisan deal
 
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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 669087)
Dems deserve this to be honest, for putting out such a shitty proposal. This is all negotiation. Dems low balled, so Trump felt like he was trying to get taken advantage of and told them to fuck off. The working group can come up with a more reasonable proposal than what was presented.

You give Trump too much of a pass. He could have said he needs more money for the wall as next step in negotiations. Instead he goes on a rant like a spoiled two year old. Also stop saying it was only DEMs - this was a bipartisan proposal

moto 01-12-2018 09:45 AM

Re: Trump tweet on bipartisan deal
 
It's like both sides don't want any solution so they can keep milking it more

Afridi786 01-12-2018 09:55 AM

Re: Trump tweet on bipartisan deal
 
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Originally Posted by moto (Post 669096)
It's like both sides don't want any solution so they can keep milking it more

That was always going to be most likely outcome.

JJ Glo 01-12-2018 10:00 AM

Re: Trump tweet on bipartisan deal
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 669095)
You give Trump too much of a pass. He could have said he needs more money for the wall as next step in negotiations. Instead he goes on a rant like a spoiled two year old. Also stop saying it was only DEMs - this was a bipartisan proposal

He did say that. They tried to give him $1.6b when he was asking for 18? They tried to throw in TPS when DHS has just cancelled it?

hopeful_in_nyc 01-12-2018 10:01 AM

Re: Trump tweet on bipartisan deal
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 669095)
You give Trump too much of a pass. He could have said he needs more money for the wall as next step in negotiations. Instead he goes on a rant like a spoiled two year old. Also stop saying it was only DEMs - this was a bipartisan proposal

Exactly this. Some people on this forum feed off of others opinions way too much without analyzing and understanding the situation. This was a bipartisan proposal: 4 repubs and 4 dems. What I would like to know is to what extent Schumer, Pelosi were involved in this? It’s def back to the drawing board but relief is coming.

JJ Glo 01-12-2018 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 669090)
Not surprised. These tweets might be for his base, but they also derail negotiations. I wonder if Miller was the one to tuck him into bed last night? Also I was reading this interview WSJ did with Trump and he didn't seem to understand that DACA participants are DREAMers.

Tha'ts a strange fucking thing to say. Difference between DACA and Dreamers? WTF?

always_learner11 01-12-2018 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 669098)
He did say that. They tried to give him $1.6b when he was asking for 18? They tried to throw in TPS when DHS has just cancelled it?

Trump did say that he wanted more money for his wall. The problem is, that's not all he said. He said a lot of other things, and that's where the problem lies. That's where negotiations are derailed.

Give him 5-18B for his wall, you say? Well that means giving him 10-33B all together for border security. Some Democrats will not support this.

As for the TPS, an effort needed to be made to defend them. If no effort was made, many Democrats would be furious.

That's not a good idea. You're going to lose some Republicans regardless, and now you want to lose some Democrats. This bill is not going to pass with some Democrats and some Republicans not supporting it. You need most all Democrats and some Republicans.

This was not a lowball offer. Democrats are just dealing with unreasonable people.

eva02 01-12-2018 10:28 AM

Re: Trump tweet on bipartisan deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 669087)
Dems deserve this to be honest, for putting out such a shitty proposal. This is all negotiation. Dems low balled, so Trump felt like he was trying to get taken advantage of and told them to fuck off. The working group can come up with a more reasonable proposal than what was presented.

Republicans were in on that negotiation. This appeased both sides. If they move it more to the right your gonna lose democrats, move it more to the left you’ll lose republicans.

UnknownUser 01-12-2018 10:29 AM

Re: Trump tweet on bipartisan deal
 
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Originally Posted by JJ Glo (Post 669101)
Tha'ts a strange fucking thing to say. Difference between DACA and Dreamers? WTF?

I think he means Dreamers are the people that aged out or never got to apply for DACA.
DACA, the roughly 700,000 people currently under the program.


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