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Swim19 02-16-2018 01:05 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by soypana (Post 691916)
Yea it sucks man.. They don't even try to learn English when they are here and settle for minimum wage jobs.

Sure, some never learn English and then you hear stories of those that became Doctors, Engineers, etc.

Also having family in a foreign country can help you assimilate faster.

Demise 02-16-2018 02:22 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 692051)
Sure, some never learn English and then you hear stories of those that became Doctors, Engineers, etc.

Also having family in a foreign country can help you assimilate faster.

It really depends more on age than method of entry. Someone who enters at 1 will assimilate quite more than someone who entered at 30.

Besides this isn't some problem limited to the Family-PR subset of immigrants. Show of hands, how many of your parents can barely speak English.

IamAman 02-17-2018 06:34 AM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 691809)
How is this fair?

Dems basically traded us for chain migrants.

We grew up, got educated, contribute to society here

But people who never been here before, not necessarily have even HS education, most dont even know English aka Chain Migrants will come to get GCs

So absurd.

You fell hook line and sinker for the Republican anti-immigration propaganda. This is like when the rich pin the middle class against the poor so the middle class don't come after them.

How is chain migration fair? It's fair because it brings families together. If someone comes to the US and makes it, why isn't it fair that they should have a chance to bring their family here? Why should they have to choose between their life here and being with family?

If you want to be pissed, be pissed at the Republicans for making this a choice. It shouldn't be a choice between giving legal status to dreamers vs. tearing families apart.

versailles 02-17-2018 12:53 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 692372)
You fell hook line and sinker for the Republican anti-immigration propaganda. This is like when the rich pin the middle class against the poor so the middle class don't come after them.

How is chain migration fair? It's fair because it brings families together. If someone comes to the US and makes it, why isn't it fair that they should have a chance to bring their family here? Why should they have to choose between their life here and being with family?

If you want to be pissed, be pissed at the Republicans for making this a choice. It shouldn't be a choice between giving legal status to dreamers vs. tearing families apart.

man some of you so willingly chose to not think of things in a smart way.
chain migration/family reunification whatever you want to call it, is abused in the way of people outside of one family, I.E.: a mother and father, and siblings, being gifted a green card for no real reason.
you are willingly ignorant if you think that a cousin or distant relative of someone who "made it" in america deserves legal status more than people under DACA that are already assimilated and "american" in every sense of the word.

as a matter of fact, you're on board with the_donald idiots that think these people deserve to be here more than DACA people.

FinAnalyst 02-17-2018 01:49 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 692402)
man some of you so willingly chose to not think of things in a smart way.
chain migration/family reunification whatever you want to call it, is abused in the way of people outside of one family, I.E.: a mother and father, and siblings, being gifted a green card for no real reason.
you are willingly ignorant if you think that a cousin or distant relative of someone who "made it" in america deserves legal status more than people under DACA that are already assimilated and "american" in every sense of the word.

as a matter of fact, you're on board with the_donald idiots that think these people deserve to be here more than DACA people.

So you are saying that we “illegal” DACA recepients deserve more rights than America Citizens? Because that’s basically what you are implying. The fact is that ending family reunification would mean that 300+ million current and all future American citizens would lose their rights in exchange for 1.8 million DREAMERS.
Don’t be that naive, this isn’t a us versus them, it’s the Republican Party trying to screw all future immigrant and their families, which by the way would include our own.

versailles 02-17-2018 01:51 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by FinAnalyst (Post 692424)
So you are saying that we “illegal” DACA recepients deserve more rights than America Citizens? Because that’s basically what you are implying. The fact is that ending family reunification would mean that 300+ million current and all future American citizens would lose their rights in exchange for 1.8 million DREAMERS.
Don’t be that naive, this isn’t a us versus them, it’s the Republican Party trying to screw all future immigrant and their families, which by the way would include our own.

nope.
im saying that we have more of a claim to be here than a distant distant family member of someone who wasn't even born here.
did you actually even read my post??
where did i imply that american citizens should lose their rights?
don't be naive.
think rationally.

FinAnalyst 02-17-2018 02:05 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 692402)
man some of you so willingly chose to not think of things in a smart way.
chain migration/family reunification whatever you want to call it, is abused in the way of people outside of one family, I.E.: a mother and father, and siblings, being gifted a green card for no real reason.
you are willingly ignorant if you think that a cousin or distant relative of someone who "made it" in america deserves legal status more than people under DACA that are already assimilated and "american" in every sense of the word.

as a matter of fact, you're on board with the_donald idiots that think these people deserve to be here more than DACA people.

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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 692425)
nope.
im saying that we have more of a claim to be here than a distant distant family member of someone who wasn't even born here.
did you actually even read my post??
where did i imply that american citizens should lose their rights?
don't be naive.
think rationally.


You still don’t seem to understand the concept family reunification.. Tell me, in what world is a parent or a brother or sister of an America citizen considered a “distant distant family member”?

American citizen WOULD absolutely lose their rights if they are no longer able to legally sponsor their close family members.

versailles 02-17-2018 02:06 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by FinAnalyst (Post 692430)
You still don’t seem to understand the concept family reunification.. Tell me, in what world is a parent or a brother or sister of an America citizen considered a “distant distant family member”?

American citizen WOULD absolutely lose their rights if they are no longer able to legally sponsor their close family members.

where in my post did i say a brother and parent is a "distant relative"
can you not read? i literally said the opposite.

Demise 02-17-2018 08:55 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by versailles (Post 692431)
where in my post did i say a brother and parent is a "distant relative"
can you not read? i literally said the opposite.

Considering that you can't sponsor further than one block in any direction (parent, spouse, child, sibling) this whole conversation is retarded.

versailles 02-17-2018 09:06 PM

Re: Chain migrants will get GCs, while we Dreamers get nothing
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 692501)
Considering that you can't sponsor further than one block in any direction (parent, spouse, child, sibling) this whole conversation is retarded.

i trust actual evidence of it happening over your opinion of it.
if chain migration didn't exist, or wasn't real etc, why would people be so against adding it to legislation?
after all, it's not real.


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