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RedBlueGreen 03-02-2018 12:11 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
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Originally Posted by AleiaTheEnchanted (Post 695607)
Trump will cave. He needs to please his base so he will do whatever he can to do so as he will run for re-election.
Or he could just say that he stopped the Democrats from giving a bunch of illegals citizenship. His base would love that. We are overestimating how much he wants the wall.

dtrt09 03-02-2018 12:49 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 695597)
Anything can still happen.

Trump keeps moving goal posts, but that will continue to happen until Democrats grow some balls.

Don't expect Trump to negotiate in good faith or with limitations when the other side lacks or doesn't have spine in the long run.

This will be the same scenario even after a "blue wave." Democrats are expected to be spineless until further notice.

"But, there is nothing we can do!" -Democrats. Oh, there is; you just won't do a lot for illegals. It is so fucking evident that each side carries blame, albeit Trump more than Democrats. I think what we really gets to all of us is the blue cowardice. It's like watching a big muscle guy allow himself to be bullied when we all know damn well he can defend himself.
They did not fight at all for a solution. Durbin/Graham did not even offer their plan for a vote. Stop playing with people's lives.

jorgeag92 03-02-2018 01:43 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
Nah. Trump will say he was waiting for Dems to come to him, but never came. He even tweeted about it to cover his ass. He will say only he cares about dreamers and only he and he alone can solve it, but he needs more Republicans elected, "Make Americans Dream Again" and....people will fall for it. Yes, I predict Republicans taking a super majority because the world is a sad sad place and people are stupid and politicians are assholes.

Smooth 03-02-2018 02:17 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 695604)
Just relax until after the November election fellas. Your DACA isn't going anywhere till then. Any deal that happens before then would be not one that you'd want to take anyway. It's a lemon market now.
Democrats are not going to grow balls after the election man.

IbelieveIcanFly 03-02-2018 02:50 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 695623)
Democrats are not going to grow balls after the election man.
Our friend here has gotten used to waiting for miracles. I guess we all had. Let him be....

jorgeag92 03-02-2018 03:23 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
I think at this point, most of us agree that no permanent solution will pass for a while (maybe 4 years?). I want to know what everyone's plan is for the future. I am thinking of possibly immigrating to Australia if not Canada, or marriage, but both options will be tough. The former because I will have to save tons of money, and the latter because who wants to get married right? Does anybody have other plans that maybe I can borrow?

Smooth 03-02-2018 03:34 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
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Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 695644)
I think at this point, most of us agree that no permanent solution will pass for a while (maybe 4 years?). I want to know what everyone's plan is for the future. I am thinking of possibly immigrating to Australia if not Canada, or marriage, but both options will be tough. The former because I will have to save tons of money, and the latter because who wants to get married right? Does anybody have other plans that maybe I can borrow?
Wait a little.

I never thought we would even get daca. So much can still happen.

Alfredo93 03-02-2018 03:39 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
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Originally Posted by RedBlueGreen (Post 695608)
Or he could just say that he stopped the Democrats from giving a bunch of illegals citizenship. His base would love that. We are overestimating how much he wants the wall.
But he's the one that proposed it.

Mr_Doctor_Pysch 03-02-2018 03:53 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
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Originally Posted by IbelieveIcanFly (Post 695634)
Our friend here has gotten used to waiting for miracles. I guess we all had. Let him be....
I'm a realist too but far too many progressives are taking over. Corporate spineless shit like Cuck Schumer won't be around after November.

cooltalker 03-02-2018 04:08 PM
Re: Immigration deal as unlikely as ever: 'DACA is probably on ice for a long time'
 
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Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 695644)
Does anybody have other plans that maybe I can borrow?
Plan C: Buy a lottery ticket twice a week. Since we are hoping for a miracle (DA to pass), why not just hope to win the lottery instead? None of this illegal shit will matter once you are a fucking millionaire. You might just win if you play, but if you don't, you definitely won't.


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