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2Face 05-02-2018 05:16 PM

Re: Senator Graham tweets
 
I am fully with Lindsay Graham here. The point is that Congress is being pressured. He said himself Congress does shit ONLY WHEN PRESSURED. Coming from Lindsay Graham this should NOT worry us at all. He is a leading advocate to get something done legally!

avf 05-02-2018 05:25 PM

Re: Senator Graham tweets
 
What is with people here automatically dropping F bombs to anyone that does anything that upsets you. Durbin, Schumer, Graham. But yet you kiss their asses when they want to help you. Grow up and grow a pair. It really makes us all look childish and ignorant

Graham is on our side. He supports us. But he is a Republican at the same time. Don't bash him. We need him!

dreamer__13 05-02-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by avf (Post 703748)
What is with people here automatically dropping F bombs to anyone that does anything that upsets you. Durbin, Schumer, Graham. But yet you kiss their asses when they want to help you. Grow up and grow a pair. It really makes us all look childish and ignorant

Graham is on our side. He supports us. But he is a Republican at the same time. Don't bash him. We need him!

For fucks sake... I apologized. I already said I haven’t gotten my rabies shot yet. It’s ok tho cuz I’m wearing a muzzle.

vft1008 05-02-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 703744)
I am fully with Lindsay Graham here. The point is that Congress is being pressured. He said himself Congress does shit ONLY WHEN PRESSURED. Coming from Lindsay Graham this should NOT worry us at all. He is a leading advocate to get something done legally!

Except nothing will happen via congress this year due to the midterms, while the lawsuit actions are moving forward.

2Face 05-02-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 703753)
Except nothing will happen via congress this year due to the midterms, while the lawsuit actions are moving forward.

I still think there's a very good chance something will get done this year. They will do it literally like at the eleventh hour on the day before calamity. I think the biggest obstacle from the WH/Republican side is Stephen Miller in the White House mostly.

vft1008 05-02-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 703755)
I still think there's a very good chance something will get done this year. They will do it literally like at the eleventh hour on the day before calamity. I think the biggest obstacle from the WH/Republican side is Stephen Miller in the White House mostly.

You think the orange ape will cave on his wall request? And if not, you think the dems will give him funding for the wall?

Even with the odds at stake and all the pressure, I think either is unlikely.

2Face 05-02-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 703756)
You think the orange ape will cave on his wall request? And if not, you think the dems will give him funding for the wall?

Even with the odds at stake and all the pressure, I think either is unlikely.

Why does he have to cave on wall request? He never campaigned for anything else. Full wall funding in exchange for legalization of Dreamers is a fair deal. He had agreed to that until fuckers Miller and Cotton derailed everything.

vft1008 05-02-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 703757)
Why does he have to cave on wall request? He never campaigned for anything else. Full wall funding in exchange for legalization of Dreamers is a fair deal. He had agreed to that until fuckers Miller and Cotton derailed everything.

He doesn't. All I am saying is that if he doesn't, the dems are not going to give it to him during midterm season. The opportunity came and went for that. If any wall-Dreamer relief deal happens, it'll be way after midterms. And I don't think the dems will cave in, giving him wall money even if DACA is legally rescinded this year.

All IMO, of course.

BeansDreamtoo21 05-02-2018 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 703763)
He doesn't. All I am saying is that if he doesn't, the dems are not going to give it to him during midterm season. The opportunity came and went for that. If any wall-Dreamer relief deal happens, it'll be way after midterms. And I don't think the dems will cave in, giving him wall money even if DACA is legally rescinded this year.

All IMO, of course.

Could you explain why you think that?

vft1008 05-02-2018 06:37 PM

Re: Senator Graham tweets
 
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Originally Posted by BeansDreamtoo21 (Post 703766)
Could you explain why you think that?

Because they need to keep their base energized and campaign against Trump to keep and win seats in Congress. Campaigning on a cooperative effort with Republicans resulting in dreamer relief will not energize the left and left learners as much as campaigning on the fact that they did not cave and give him his stupid ass wall.

In short, from many Dem's perspective:
Not giving him the wall victory > Helping cooperatively with Republicans to bring dreamer relief

AKA: Politics


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