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jorgeag92 06-21-2018 03:38 PM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 710924)
100% of those that the original Dream Act would have covered (updated to reflect today's ages) or nothing.

lol bruh, I just realized you are my parents age. IF they include "age out" dreamers even some of our parents will be getting legalized lmao

jaws 06-21-2018 03:40 PM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
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Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 710930)
lol bruh, i just realized you are my parents age. IF they include "age out" dreamers even some of our parents will be getting legalized lmao

You're young... explains a lot of your recent comments.

jorgeag92 06-21-2018 03:42 PM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
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Originally Posted by jaws (Post 710931)
You're young... explains a lot of your recent comments.

Dreamers are constantly being described as young kids (college age), not 42 years old lol. No wonder Congress talks never include age out dreamers

jaws 06-21-2018 03:48 PM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
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Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 710932)
Dreamers are constantly being described as young kids (college age), not 42 years old lol. No wonder Congress talks never include age out dreamers

The average age of a DACA recipient is 24-25, going into the 30s+ hardly young kids. Average age we were brought in was 2-3 yrs old. Therefore, the average DACA recipient has been able to live a life where they were legal and illegal. Yet DACAers are the most selfish asses amongst the illegal population.

complicatedc33 06-21-2018 04:04 PM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 710914)
:lol:

Good luck with that. Renewals for even those who qualified are barely hanging by a thread.

Yeah I know its funny right?

Must be nice to see others suffer the hardline tactics of the trump administration while we live on thin ice. Yeah we have DACA but lets not close the doors to those whom are the most vulnerable than us at the moment.

VJB2 06-21-2018 04:17 PM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
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Originally Posted by complicatedc33 (Post 710937)
Yeah I know its funny right?

Must be nice to see others suffer the hardline tactics of the trump administration while we live on thin ice. Yeah we have DACA but lets not close the doors to those whom are the most vulnerable than us at the moment.

You talk as if it's up to us. You can't open or close any doors. Don't forget that.

libertarian1776 06-21-2018 04:21 PM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
it is not up to us, Republican or Democrat... we will have to adapt to whatever legislation either party passes.

we cant really say what should or should not be in the bill.

if something passes it passes, if it fails it fails.

only people that can open or close the doors are the people in the government.

im really apathetic about this whole issue now, if it passes and i cant qualify , then so be it but ill be happy for the Dacaers that would qualify.

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Originally Posted by VJB2 (Post 710939)
You talk as if it's up to us. You can't open or close any doors. Don't forget that.


VJB2 06-21-2018 04:45 PM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 710940)
it is not up to us, Republican or Democrat... we will have to adapt to whatever legislation either party passes.

we cant really say what should or should not be in the bill.

if something passes it passes, if it fails it fails.

only people that can open or close the doors are the people in the government.

im really apathetic about this whole issue now, if it passes and i cant qualify , then so be it but ill be happy for the Dacaers that would qualify.

I like it much more when the logical members who don't live in a fantasy world reply to me. :cool:

JayR9 06-22-2018 09:44 AM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
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Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 710909)
Okay assume the bill covers 40% of the people, still no? 50? 60? 70? 80? 90? 100?

Selfish is just being human nature: survival..

40% of dreamers is a definite no. Dreamers are less than 10% of the undocumented population. You're talking about a subset of a subset. Try at least 90% of the dreamer population should be covered. 1-2 mil dreamers being covered should be such a insignificant number when you look at the total population. Problem is Dreamers are a weak voice because they have no clear vision on what they want. Saying I'll take anything long as long as I'm legalized always means bad deals. If dreamers had a clear line of terms they are unwilling to accept then this political game would turn out very differently.

Just say you're desperate and selfish. You need to survive. You don't give a fuck about others long as you get yours. No need to try to justify yourself with a argument such as human nature. There nothing wrong with thinking this way. The only thing is don't ask others for help when you're fucked. Reap what you sow.

versailles 06-22-2018 10:11 AM

Re: House Republicans are having a bad-faith immigration debate
 
"IF I CAN'T GET MY WAY, THEN NOTHING SHOULD HAPPEN FOR ANYONE, AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD SUFFER BECAUSE OF IT."

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