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DACAgogue 06-22-2020 08:25 AM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
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Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 749192)
Yes people, DACA is unlawful.

Why do you think we need a permanent solution?

I swear yall social justice warriors are ruining everything these days.

Everyone is offended by this assertion when in fact it is the truth. Why are we pushing for legislation then? Because DACA was created by executive fiat and it can be rescinded by executive fiat.

Leftists Millennials and Generation Z are the worst people when it comes to knowing what a law is and what the US Consititution actually says. Read a book and stop wasting your time on Tik Tok!

Trumps gonna cream Sleepy Joe on election day. Mark my words.

Cite the statute that you’re referencing that makes DACA illegal? Or where in the INA can you find the rationale. I want to see if you’re pea sized brain is capable of thinking or you only can spew right wing talking points

2Face 06-22-2020 11:48 AM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 749192)
Yes people, DACA is unlawful.

Why do you think we need a permanent solution?

I swear yall social justice warriors are ruining everything these days.

Everyone is offended by this assertion when in fact it is the truth. Why are we pushing for legislation then? Because DACA was created by executive fiat and it can be rescinded by executive fiat.

Leftists Millennials and Generation Z are the worst people when it comes to knowing what a law is and what the US Consititution actually says. Read a book and stop wasting your time on Tik Tok!

Trumps gonna cream Sleepy Joe on election day. Mark my words.

100%. DACA was always meant to be temporary, it was meant to give Congress little bit time to pass legislation but Congress took it the wrong way and refused to do anything! Judging on how happy Schumer was on the SCOTUS decision, I'm afraid we're headed down the same path all over again. Do not think I'm against DACA. I'm just more for legislation. Far left immigration groups absolutely love DACA and want it to remain in place forever. Its very sad. Now..I'll save y'all some energy and call myself a "Trumper." SMH.

Afridi786 06-22-2020 12:02 PM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 749206)
100%. DACA was always meant to be temporary, it was meant to give Congress little bit time to pass legislation but Congress took it the wrong way and refused to do anything! Judging on how happy Schumer was on the SCOTUS decision, I'm afraid we're headed down the same path all over again. Do not think I'm against DACA. I'm just more for legislation. Far left immigration groups absolutely love DACA and want it to remain in place forever. Its very sad. Now..I'll save y'all some energy and call myself a "Trumper." SMH.

I don't believe Trump when he says he wants a solution. At least Dems try to pass legislation for us. GOP won't even let people vote on bills. Trump tanked every bipartisan bill out there.

2Face 06-22-2020 12:37 PM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 749207)
I don't believe Trump when he says he wants a solution. At least Dems try to pass legislation for us. GOP won't even let people vote on bills. Trump tanked every bipartisan bill out there.

Trump was not elected to bring a solution for Dreamers then why would you believe him when he said he wants a solution in the first place. He was elected to deport them.

DamLeon123 06-22-2020 02:37 PM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf does not have an ounce of pride. Stating that the Supreme Court didnt say DACA was lawful. Yeah no shit dumbass it did not say it was UNLAWFUL either

2MoreYears 06-22-2020 02:40 PM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
Is DHS chief supposed to be bias? Isn't it illegal to be bias ? I say sue him.

DamLeon123 06-22-2020 02:44 PM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 749192)
Yes people, DACA is unlawful.

Why do you think we need a permanent solution?

I swear yall social justice warriors are ruining everything these days.

Everyone is offended by this assertion when in fact it is the truth. Why are we pushing for legislation then? Because DACA was created by executive fiat and it can be rescinded by executive fiat.

Leftists Millennials and Generation Z are the worst people when it comes to knowing what a law is and what the US Consititution actually says. Read a book and stop wasting your time on Tik Tok!

Trumps gonna cream Sleepy Joe on election day. Mark my words.

Piss off dumbass. Presidents have had and used defered action for decades.

Smooth 06-22-2020 05:06 PM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 749192)
Yes people, DACA is unlawful.

Why do you think we need a permanent solution?

I swear yall social justice warriors are ruining everything these days.

Everyone is offended by this assertion when in fact it is the truth. Why are we pushing for legislation then? Because DACA was created by executive fiat and it can be rescinded by executive fiat.

Leftists Millennials and Generation Z are the worst people when it comes to knowing what a law is and what the US Consititution actually says. Read a book and stop wasting your time on Tik Tok!

Trumps gonna cream Sleepy Joe on election day. Mark my words.

No. Daca is lawful because the executive branch has prosecutorial discretion in deciding whom it wants to focus its resources on for deportation.

Please explain why DACA is unlawful. Which constitutional and INA provisions does DACA violate? Article 1, Sec. 8 gives Congress power to regulate naturalization. The INA sets out procedures for naturalization. Nobody is applying for naturalization via daca dude.

We are pushing for a permanent solution because, albeit lawful, forbearance of removal (DACA)is a temporary decision made by the executive branch--a prosecutorial decision that can change by administration solely for political reasons--not reasons based on legality/illegality.

2MoreYears 06-22-2020 05:24 PM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
Excatly! The same discretion that Trump is using in todays EO about immigration!.

Demise 06-23-2020 02:11 AM

Re: Acting DHS chief Chad Wolf calls DACA 'unlawful'
 
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Originally Posted by DamLeon123 (Post 749217)
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf does not have an ounce of pride. Stating that the Supreme Court didnt say DACA was lawful. Yeah no shit dumbass it did not say it was UNLAWFUL either

In today's news, courts don't rule on matters not before them. Hell, they rarely if ever reach conclusions that weren't spoon fed to them by either party (they can, but they normally don't).

Like there is such thing in dicta where a court makes a legal observation outside the scope of the case but guess what, those don't establish a legal precedent.


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