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leo86 01-28-2025 03:07 AM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
i think the whole "We are going after criminals first" is a ruse.
Going after everyone was the plan from the start.
They had to make it politically acceptable so they started with the most indefensible targets. Now they've gauged the public's reaction and found widespread support instead of protests.
This is phase 2 already. They've got momentum and will use it.
They are raiding a bunch of random ass places that have nothing to do with criminals.
The whole strategy is to appear to be everywhere , sow confusion, and fear.
In the meantime, exploiting everything for max political gains while trying to put the Democrats into an impossible situation.
It's the "let's make their lives unbearable that they will want to self-deport".
Plus, every single arrest is making the news and it's blowing everything out of proportion.

PapiChulo 01-28-2025 03:16 AM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leo86 (Post 773718)
i think the whole "We are going after criminals first" is a ruse.
Going after everyone was the plan from the start.
They had to make it politically acceptable so they started with the most indefensible targets. Now they've gauged the public's reaction and found widespread support instead of protests.
This is phase 2 already. They've got momentum and will use it.
They are raiding a bunch of random ass places that have nothing to do with criminals.
The whole strategy is to appear to be everywhere , sow confusion, and fear.
In the meantime, exploiting everything for max political gains while trying to put the Democrats into an impossible situation.
It's the "let's make their lives unbearable that they will want to self-deport".
Plus, every single arrest is making the news and it's blowing everything out of proportion.

Nah, i dont think so. Obama was deporting 2,198 per day. Trump's numbers are peanuts compared to it.

They are just ramping up the propaganda on tv with Dr. Phil and shit.

Don't believe the media from either side.

Demise 01-28-2025 09:37 AM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773719)
Nah, i dont think so. Obama was deporting 2,198 per day. Trump's numbers are peanuts compared to it.

They are just ramping up the propaganda on tv with Dr. Phil and shit.

Don't believe the media from either side.

Yeah but with Obama I'm guessing that a large number of that were summary removals (basically removed on entry) and some that had final orders. Also back then pretty sure the current process of applying for asylum wasn't a thing so you'd be better off just EWI'ing and applying while you're in US or applying defensively if you get caught. Currently eligibility for the interim C08 EAD is tied to presenting yourself for inspection which is a pretty big carrot to make people queue up and not scale the wall.

I don't really trust Trump to abide by the legal process considering that their stupid little raids managed to snag a few US Citizens, one of whom was a Puerto Rican with his military ID on him. Might not be a US Passport but considering that you generally need to be legal to join the military (or at least will come out legally out the other end) if you catch someone with one of those you should probably just let them go or at most detain them long enough to verify with the DOD that the person exists and then let them go.

Got_Daca 01-28-2025 11:50 AM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
We thought the removal operations were PR ruse: they can't deport every undoc

Turns out the it indeed was a PR ruse to deport every undoc.

DogJuiceMan 01-28-2025 12:29 PM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
Venezuelans and Haitians fucked up this shit for everyone. Mexicans and others came here to work not for handouts.

But the new migrants want everything handed to them and even want to protest. Lots of energy to demand Venezuelan food but aren't grateful for whatever they get. Lots of energy to protest.

Got_Daca 01-28-2025 12:44 PM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 773724)
Venezuelans and Haitians fucked up this shit for everyone. Mexicans and others came here to work not for handouts.

But the new migrants want everything handed to them and even want to protest. Lots of energy to demand Venezuelan food but aren't grateful for whatever they get. Lots of energy to protest.

Biden Admin let them in by crazy numbers

4 million total

Now they all gotta go back

hDreamer1988 01-28-2025 01:21 PM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
Quote:

xVenezuelans and Haitians fucked up this shit for everyone. Mexicans and others came here to work not for handouts.

But the new migrants want everything handed to them and even want to protest. Lots of energy to demand Venezuelan food but aren't grateful for whatever they get. Lots of energy to protest.
They really screwed up when they start posting on social media about all the free money and how the government is soo stupid.. I think his name was Leonel Moreno

DogJuiceMan 01-28-2025 01:24 PM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 773725)
Biden Admin let them in by crazy numbers

4 million total

Now they all gotta go back

How did anyone think this would work out well by any measure. Unmitigated disaster.

Got_Daca 01-28-2025 01:30 PM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 773727)
How did anyone think this would work out well by any measure. Unmitigated disaster.

There was huge shortage of workers post-Covid

Biden Admin wanted the economy roaring back

Inject huge cash

Inject huge number of migrant workers

It did work to bring back the economy

But it backfired.

vft1008 01-28-2025 01:42 PM

Re: Half of recent ICE arrests had CLEAN record [holy shit]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 773724)
Venezuelans and Haitians fucked up this shit for everyone. Mexicans and others came here to work not for handouts.

But the new migrants want everything handed to them and even want to protest. Lots of energy to demand Venezuelan food but aren't grateful for whatever they get. Lots of energy to protest.

You're falling right into their playbook. They want immigrants to blame other immigrants. This takes the useless politicians off the chopping block.

Instead of blaming other immigrants, blame the politicians on both sides for not fixing the system for DECADES. If we had a sensible system, there wouldn't be people coming in and getting handouts.

Don't put your frustration on other immigrants. Blame and call out the politicians.


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