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Katy95 01-14-2017 02:34 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vze77ach (Post 596431)
If Trump insists on revoking DACA And deport DACA recipients, there is no way Congress can stop him except for passing
The Bridge Act . But the chance for the passage of Bridge Act is not good . Most republican have no sympathy and will oppose it. I am not optimistic. Hoping God will change their mind ! Gold bless us !

Did you read what Ryan said this week?

Vze77ach 01-14-2017 04:26 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Katy95 (Post 596441)
Did you read what Ryan said this week?

To be clear, mass deportation does need Congress's approval , unfortunately
deporting DACA recipient is something that Trump is empowered to do on his own . President has the power
To set the priority when enforcing immigration law

cooltalker 01-14-2017 05:16 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vze77ach (Post 596431)
If Trump insists on revoking DACA And deport DACA recipients, there is no way Congress can stop him except for passing
The Bridge Act . But the chance for the passage of Bridge Act is not good . Most republican have no sympathy and will oppose it. I am not optimistic. Hoping God will change their mind ! Gold bless us !

Lol if Trump wants to deport us, then even the Bridge Act can't help us. He will just veto it in case it passes.

libertarian1776 01-14-2017 05:22 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
again... Dreamers are the lowest priority when it comes to enforcing immigration. again... the executive branch does not have enough man power and resources to erect a mass deportation force. if youre so sure about us getting deported, we should just all self-deport then before trump sends ice to our doors. gtfo here man, nobody aint getting damn deported.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Vze77ach (Post 596445)
To be clear, mass deportation does need Congress's approval , unfortunately
deporting DACA recipient is something that Trump is empowered to do on his own . President has the power
To set the priority when enforcing immigration law


JohannBernoulli1667 01-14-2017 06:10 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Trump is not even racist.

Stop listening to Univision.

Joannax24 01-14-2017 06:13 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 596458)
Trump is not even racist.

Stop listening to Univision.

Major trolling.

complicatedc33 01-14-2017 06:16 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 596458)
Trump is not even racist.

Stop listening to Univision.

He's not racist right? he just puts many disadvantaged colored, minority people in a tough spot. He facilitates racism, and ruins race relations. He brings out the closeted racists. He does all this through his white privilege. His actions are really showing he can be racist, or simply egging on fights for his white supremacists. I hope he proves me wrong and gets his act together regarding minorities, and colored folks. He has done so much damage. He has people feeling like they don't belong in their own country because of the body they embody.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-14-2017 07:18 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
trump is very racist


https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrump..._why_trump_is/

2Face 01-14-2017 07:27 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 596458)
Trump is not even racist.

Stop listening to Univision.

Univision definitely blows just like other news organizations. In the last interview or something with Trump, the idiots didn't even ask him about DACA. Bunch of traitors.

2Face 01-14-2017 07:30 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 596452)
again... Dreamers are the lowest priority when it comes to enforcing immigration. again... the executive branch does not have enough man power and resources to erect a mass deportation force. if youre so sure about us getting deported, we should just all self-deport then before trump sends ice to our doors. gtfo here man, nobody aint getting damn deported.

Where the fuck were you this past year. We needed people like you to drill this truth down people's throats. Dreamers are as elite as it gets. Dreamers are also very close to Republican hearts believe it or not. The McCains and Grahams absolutely adore our assess.

libertarian1776 01-14-2017 07:35 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
i been lurking man lol but yeah it just gets annoying with the pessimism in here though. shit dude, i keep telling these guys if we get legalized then its all great. if not and we have to leave America, i tell them that ya'll are fcking DREAMER's...you guys are the best of the best, if you can make it here in America without documents for years ya'll can make it anywhere. if America doesnt work out for us, life moves the fuck on.


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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 596469)
Where the fuck were you this past year. We needed people like you to drill this truth down people's throats. Dreamers are as elite as it gets. Dreamers are also very close to Republican hearts believe it or not. The McCains and Grahams absolutely adore our assess.


2Face 01-14-2017 08:03 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 596470)
i been lurking man lol but yeah it just gets annoying with the pessimism in here though. shit dude, i keep telling these guys if we get legalized then its all great. if not and we have to leave America, i tell them that ya'll are fcking DREAMER's...you guys are the best of the best, if you can make it here in America without documents for years ya'll can make it anywhere. if America doesnt work out for us, life moves the fuck on.

Hey on election day when I dipped from work I was absolutely amped thinking Hillary will win and already celebrating. I started bugging out when Trump was beating the shit out of her in Florida and Ohio, completely shocked. But turns out Trump was, and yes I am already claiming it an AMAZING choice for hopes of broader immigration reform. Dreamers will be top of the chain, first in line to obtain POSSIBLE legal status very soon. Republicans do a fine job sticking together unlike the asshole blue dog democrats who killed Dream Act in 2010. Trump is an equalizer. He will force these politicians to work together. He won't be getting along that well with Republicans, there's a massive rebellion brewing in fact between them.

lakers1824 01-14-2017 08:33 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Trump doesn't need a deportation force. If you are detained even for small violations chances are Sessions will order all agencies to seek immediate removal if they are here illegally. Best to stay out of trouble while Trump is president. Don't drink and drive, don't jailwalk, don't have domestic disputes. simply stay in a bubble for the next 4 years. Better to be safe than sorry.

libertarian1776 01-14-2017 08:37 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
you know how backed up immigration courts are? they are like processing 500k+ people for removals. And if they add another 750k DACA ppl, do u know how long that would take? it would take years and we will be waiting here to get a hearing and they have to provide you you're DACA work permit while you wait.

Bernie Sanders or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson will probably be President by the time we get a hearing.

Always remember your 5th amendment rights, this is America where you have due process. nobody aint gonna force you on a plane and ship you off where you came from without you having your day in court.


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Originally Posted by lakers1824 (Post 596474)
Trump doesn't need a deportation force. If you are detained even for small violations chances are Sessions will order all agencies to seek immediate removal if they are here illegally. Best to stay out of trouble while Trump is president. Don't drink and drive, don't jailwalk, don't have domestic disputes. simply stay in a bubble for the next 4 years. Better to be safe than sorry.


2Face 01-14-2017 09:46 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lakers1824 (Post 596474)
Trump doesn't need a deportation force. If you are detained even for small violations chances are Sessions will order all agencies to seek immediate removal if they are here illegally. Best to stay out of trouble while Trump is president. Don't drink and drive, don't jailwalk, don't have domestic disputes. simply stay in a bubble for the next 4 years. Better to be safe than sorry.

Sounds like the same exact thing under Obama to me. Even right now we shouldn't be doing any of those things! Anyone DACA recipient who drinks and drives should be kicked the eff out of this country without due process.

dreamer12345 01-14-2017 11:00 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
This is breitbart, can we trust Ryan actually said this or is it being recontextualized?

libertarian1776 01-14-2017 11:01 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
go to paul ryans website and read his immigration reform plan. and no its just not breitbart, he said it on a cnn town hall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 596480)
This is breitbart, can we trust Ryan actually said this or is it being recontextualized?


dreamer12345 01-14-2017 11:03 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 596469)
Where the fuck were you this past year. We needed people like you to drill this truth down people's throats. Dreamers are as elite as it gets. Dreamers are also very close to Republican hearts believe it or not. The McCains and Grahams absolutely adore our assess.

You what? Like I'm supposed to forget McCain left us out to dry when dream act came up? I'm pretty sure Graham's been a hater too, just conveniently not lately cuz they all a bunch of hypocrite opportunists.

libertarian1776 01-14-2017 11:07 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
bro... its politics, they voted against it in 2010 because they didnt trust Obama to enforce the immigration laws. Of course both sides want to take credit for passing CIR or Dream Act. And now they think they have a president-elect trump that would actually enforce the laws, so they are more inclined to pass hawkish border security laws while the democrats use us as leverage to fund their wall at the same time get LPR. I worked for the US House of Representatives man, its just how politics works.

Why do u think democrats want it so bad for us to get citizenship? thats 11 million votes in their pockets. its just how it is mayne... we will just have to wait and see. Both democrats and republicans are hypocrites tbh. Legal Permanent Residency is in the Horizon, my friends.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 596482)
You what? Like I'm supposed to forget McCain left us out to dry when dream act came up? I'm pretty sure Graham's been a hater too, just conveniently not lately cuz they all a bunch of hypocrite opportunists.


dreamer12345 01-14-2017 11:09 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 596481)
go to paul ryans website and read his immigration reform plan. and no its just not breitbart, he said it on a cnn town hall.

not buying; I remember his tea party days....sure sounds nice now, hopefully they push it through, I'm still not going to forget how they kept playing us for pawns against Obama/the left.

dreamer12345 01-14-2017 11:13 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 596483)
bro... its politics, they voted against it in 2010 because they didnt trust Obama to enforce the immigration laws. Of course both sides want to take credit for passing CIR or Dream Act. And now they think they have a president-elect trump that would actually enforce the laws, so they are more inclined to pass hawkish border security laws while the democrats use us as leverage to fund their wall at the same time get LPR. I worked for the US House of Representatives man, its just how politics works.

Why do u think democrats want it so bad for us to get citizenship? thats 11 million votes in their pockets. its just how it is mayne... we will just have to wait and see. Legal Permanent Residency is in the Horizon, my friends.

I know it is, but you can't tell me Obama wasn't hard on enforcement when he pushed for record number deportations for the explicit purpose of showing the right that he was tough on enforcement and it was their turn to play ball. They laughed it off and kept their obstructionist ways. Sure they may want this win, but doing the right thing should come way ahead of politics.

libertarian1776 01-14-2017 11:16 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
yeah i concur with u bout obama deporting more ppl than any prez. but repubs just hated him so much that they didnt wanna give him credit for anything. do u honestly believe hillary clinton would be able to pass CIR w/ gop in control of congress? itd be the same shit over again. right now there is actually a chance.



Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 596486)
I know it is, but you can't tell me Obama wasn't hard on enforcement when he pushed for record number deportations for the implicit purpose of showing the right that he was tough on enforcement and it was their turn to play ball. They laughed it off and kept their obstructionist ways. Sure they may want this win, but doing the right thing should come way ahead of politics.


libertarian1776 01-14-2017 11:23 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
and remember harry reid killed CIR in 06/07 i believe because the dems didnt think it didnt go far enough. it passed both house and senate, just didnt make it past committee.

*both sides are hypocrites.


Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 596486)
I know it is, but you can't tell me Obama wasn't hard on enforcement when he pushed for record number deportations for the explicit purpose of showing the right that he was tough on enforcement and it was their turn to play ball. They laughed it off and kept their obstructionist ways. Sure they may want this win, but doing the right thing should come way ahead of politics.


Pianoswithoutfaith 01-15-2017 12:06 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Both sides are only thinking for themselves. At the end of day we are nothing but pawns.

dreamer12345 01-15-2017 12:12 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 596490)
and remember harry reid killed CIR in 06/07 i believe because the dems didnt think it didnt go far enough. it passed both house and senate, just didnt make it past committee.

*both sides are hypocrites.

I remember it dying in the senate, and Harry Reid himself introducing it, I don't remember the specifics of how he 'killed' it. I know there was compromise for more fencing and like 20 years to get citizenship, which made the left edgy.

eva02 01-15-2017 12:37 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 596502)
I remember it dying in the senate, and Harry Reid himself introducing it, I don't remember the specifics of how he 'killed' it. I know there was compromise for more fencing and like 20 years to get citizenship, which made the left edgy.

It didn't get enough republican votes to pass the senate.

libertarian1776 01-15-2017 04:54 AM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
actually the 2006 bill both passed the house and the senate. but there was too much difference from the house version because the House version didnt have a path to legalization and the senate did. so it just didnt make it to committee and they couldnt reconcile the difference.

EdoIsa 01-16-2017 06:16 PM

Re: Ryan: Have to Find Way to Make Sure DACA People Can ‘Get Right With the Law’
 
Congress is so inefficient ...

"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there’d be a shortage of sand."


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