Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

He probably wouldn't need DACA if he were Cuban

He's just nonsensical - that's universal.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Guys, tomorrow Durbin and Graham will be on CNN’s state of the union. You think they gonna talk about Daca? They have to, right?

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

yeah, they bout to announce THE DEAL. ; )

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

thank god, no.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

nah, im not.
i'd love to hear you explain how you think i am though.
just because i said something you don't agree with. even though you literally can't prove me wrong.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

i respect and agree with some of ur opinions and you make good points that support your ideology.

but honest question, do you think youre better than other people here? or other people in general?

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

It really doesn't make a difference if you are a baby or a teenager, if you didnt make the decision of overstaying/crossing ilegally. I dont really know what you are arguing. Maybe you came here as a baby and you want everyone else to wait the same time as you because you feel it is unfair, because you have waited longer. If that's the case ill rest my case with and diagnose you with "cuban syndrome".

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

not really.
im undocumented bro, who the fuck am i better than lmao.
literal irish immigrant in the 19th century type of feel.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

stopped reading right here.
read this back to yourself and see how ridiculous it sounds.
how in god's name are they not different?
and are you saying a 17 year old can't make the decision of crossing illegally?
wtf?

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

I hope you are right bud.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Yeah whatever im not gonna keep arguing like our ilegallass opinion would change anything.
My point is that instead of hoping they disqualify people because of their age you should be hoping more people in your same situation gets some sort of relief. But thats just me.
Are you scared the number of beneficiaries is too high it will get discarded?

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

So you expect a 16 or 17 year old to stay back in his home country and fend for themselves? They will have no choice but to cross over with their family. You make no sense ! Were you independent and providing for yourself when you were that age?

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Many kids at 17 or 16 were providing themselves in my neighborhood. Did you ever live in the hood? Moms used to make the kids sell drugs to be able to support the house.

I'm okay with a 16 year old getting dream act as long as they have been here 5 years and before 2012. I think that's the dream act rules. Or am I confusing it with DACA?

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

If Dream Act was stand alone bill, I would say they would be dreaming. But now that the Republicans punted DA till the spending bill they have significantly less leverage. Last government shutdown cost $24 billion for 16 days. Republicans and Trump will have a hard time selling that the government shutdown was Democrats fault during election years. There is still need to be compromise but Republicans don't have a great hand when it comes to the spending bill.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Not everyone grows up in the hood or sell drugs. I know people in their twenties who can't think and provide for themselves.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Oh lord! You guys arguing and fighting like any of us have a choice in any of this. Our fate will be decided for us! It’s the sad truth so hold onto your seats as we go through this roller coaster together!

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Unfortunately no one ask about 20 year old who can't provide for themselves. OP asked about 16 or 17 if he or she provided for themselves.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Does it even matter? If a 20 year old can’t even provide for themselves, then what makes you think a minor (18 and under ) could? . I’m done with this conversation!

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Unfortunately nobody asked about 17 year old drug dealers in the hood

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

It depends on person. There are a lot of 16 year olds that come just to work. They work at anything they can find, from car wash to dishwasher to selling on the streets.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Right now is a bit of a stare contest between both parties.... Dems know they won't get a Clean DA and R's know they won't get Govt Spending/Border Security. It will be a compromise. These are stressful times for all of us but please let's not turn on one another, this forum has really become too toxic already.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

We want no age cap. Original Dreamers should be included.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

dude, the dream act already covers that. idk whats ur point of posting the same comment every damn time.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

I know it does but the language can change after it passes House/Senate. I am just creating awareness.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Creating awareness in the wrong place my dude . We have no voice here , politicians don’t come here

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

so u have a feeling that ur gonna get screwed again?

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

Time will tell. I think this time a age no cap Dream Act will pass but probably a long wait to USC which I am OK with and higher fines.

Re: Democrats' 'DREAMer' demands threaten spending bill, gov shutdown in coming weeks
 

I'm willing to wait to become USC as long as I can become LPR.