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vft1008 04-10-2021 04:35 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by ECW (Post 759435)

Weak. The statement release is the absolute least the admin should being doing. The admin should be taking stronger action in the migrant issue to show good faith to Rs and while doing that, should ceaselessly be hounding and pressuring the Senate to come up with a permanent Dreamer solution.

dreamer12345 04-10-2021 11:44 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 759436)
Weak. The statement release is the absolute least the admin should being doing. The admin should be taking stronger action in the migrant issue to show good faith to Rs and while doing that, should ceaselessly be hounding and pressuring the Senate to come up with a permanent Dreamer solution.

we're left pissing on the wind again. I have little hope for immigration reform of any sort now. They've again fallen for the "hordes of immigrants" narrative from fox .

Swim19 04-11-2021 07:45 AM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 759436)
Weak. The statement release is the absolute least the admin should being doing. The admin should be taking stronger action in the migrant issue to show good faith to Rs and while doing that, should ceaselessly be hounding and pressuring the Senate to come up with a permanent Dreamer solution.

There's no such thing as good faith with the Republicans. Obama tried that with all the deportations and stricter border policy, and they just laughed in his face when he wanted immigration reform in return.

2Face 04-11-2021 11:05 AM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 759443)
There's no such thing as good faith with the Republicans. Obama tried that with all the deportations and stricter border policy, and they just laughed in his face when he wanted immigration reform in return.

Same with Democrats...especially in the House...They want "immediate citizenship for all with no exceptions" and for ICE to be "abolished."

hDreamer1988 04-11-2021 11:29 AM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
both sides are listening to the big donor groups funding them and not their constituents. As always, money is king

2MoreYears 04-11-2021 12:05 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 759444)
Same with Democrats...especially in the House...They want "immediate citizenship for all with no exceptions" and for ICE to be "abolished."

Day after day I'm more convinced 2Face is a Republicant Spy.

FYI Those demands are only from small groups and do not represent the general concensus from Democrats on immigration reform and ICE.

vft1008 04-11-2021 12:59 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 759443)
There's no such thing as good faith with the Republicans. Obama tried that with all the deportations and stricter border policy, and they just laughed in his face when he wanted immigration reform in return.

It's either they play ball with Rs to get the R votes need to get the 60 votes...
or
They play dirty, do away with the filibuster, and pass DA or equivalent with simple majority.

They are doing neither now, so.... *shrugs*

vft1008 04-11-2021 01:01 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 759446)
Day after day I'm more convinced 2Face is a Republicant Spy.

FYI Those demands are only from small groups and do not represent the general concensus from Democrats on immigration reform and ICE.

I had enough a couple days ago and put the DAP MAGA trinity on my ignore list. Feels good.

2Face 04-11-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 759448)
I had enough a couple days ago and put the DAP MAGA trinity on my ignore list. Feels good.

https://media.giphy.com/media/m1y5Iver1GNR6/giphy.gif

2Face 04-11-2021 01:20 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 759446)
Day after day I'm more convinced 2Face is a Republicant Spy.

FYI Those demands are only from small groups and do not represent the general concensus from Democrats on immigration reform and ICE.

That's what you think...those people will make sure you....Enjoy your DACA permit forever and never be legalized....lmfao.

JayR9 04-11-2021 08:28 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
damn radio silence in the senate

hDreamer1988 04-11-2021 10:14 PM

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damn radio silence in the senate
The senate was out for 2 weeks I believe. I think they come back Monday.

I think they need to first focus on fixing the border issue. If they try to push for immigration first without border security and asylum, the GOP and news media will drag us (dreamers) through the mud in an effort to discredit democrats as the have done in the past.

JayR9 04-12-2021 01:17 AM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 759455)
The senate was out for 2 weeks I believe. I think they come back Monday.

I think they need to first focus on fixing the border issue. If they try to push for immigration first without border security and asylum, the GOP and news media will drag us (dreamers) through the mud in an effort to discredit democrats as the have done in the past.

If they want border funding then attach it to the bill. GOP just going to dick around.

hDreamer1988 04-12-2021 10:48 AM

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If they want border funding then attach it to the bill. GOP just going to dick around.
No side wants to show their hand first.. If Dems put a dollar amount, it gives gop room to say too low...add more... If GOP put a $ amount, it gives leverage to Dems. This is the same kind of impasse we saw for months with the 2020 covid bill. We need a bipartisan group to break the stale mate, same as before.

vft1008 04-13-2021 05:15 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
Breaking News from the Senate on Dreamer Legislation!

https://i.imgur.com/HL4sstN.jpg?1


...Still nothing happening.

cooltalker 04-13-2021 05:19 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 759485)
Breaking News from the Senate on Dreamer Legislation!

https://i.imgur.com/HL4sstN.jpg?1


...Still nothing happening.

Lmao.

Started the year with hope but these fuckers killed it once again.

hDreamer1988 04-13-2021 07:48 PM

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poor planning killed it

PapiChulo 04-13-2021 10:54 PM

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its gnna be a surprise..

Outsider626 04-13-2021 11:45 PM

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hDreamer1988 04-14-2021 01:33 AM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
It is dead in the first 100 days but Biden struck a deal with Mexico and some South American countries to keep their people away from the US border.

If we see numbers drop, which they should, negotiation will start again.

2Face 04-14-2021 10:19 AM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
A fabulous Dreamer deal is still attainable BUT only if the border crisis is put to a halt and if we can keep the radical left and right wingers out of negotiations. Both of those parties do not want a Dreamer deal to pass. Kammy Harris needs to play a big role. Its been some time since she gave an update. Isn't she responsible for the Border crisis issue? Joey needs to bring an end to this crisis quick so Durbin can get going with Dreamer negotiations!

dreamer12345 04-14-2021 09:41 PM

Re: Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 759510)
A fabulous Dreamer deal is still attainable BUT only if the border crisis is put to a halt and if we can keep the radical left and right wingers out of negotiations. Both of those parties do not want a Dreamer deal to pass. Kammy Harris needs to play a big role. Its been some time since she gave an update. Isn't she responsible for the Border crisis issue? Joey needs to bring an end to this crisis quick so Durbin can get going with Dreamer negotiations!

keep chugging that fox koolaid


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