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Sonawabich 04-26-2010 11:46 PM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
Future of millions of people, future of GOP v. last term of one ole senile Senator (McCain)

politics is harsh

lilbawler2001 04-26-2010 11:49 PM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by angeleno (Post 156600)
He's clearly trying to protect McCain with this whole "next year" bullshit. He knows that there's no way an immigration bill will pass with even more Republicans in the Senate.


Quote:

In a 15-minute exchange with reporters in the Capitol, Graham said immigration has no chance of passing, but that bringing it up this year would badly hamper lawmakers’ and the country’s ability to deal with the issue – a signature priority for Graham – in the future.
“Do you think that I would sit on the sidelines and see immigration brought up like this and not object?” he said. “I am not going to be a party to bringing up immigration...this year in a way that will destroy that issue.”
“I am not going to have my fingerprints on a political maneuver that could wind up breaking this country apart,” Graham added. “Immigration brought up this year is nothing but a political stunt. It will divide the country.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677...on-another-day

So if it has no chance of passing this year, what makes him think it has a chance of passing next year? He is clearly looking out for McCain on this one.

Dukem88 04-26-2010 11:58 PM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
They want to delay everything till they diminish the Democratic number in the senate.

DA User 04-27-2010 12:07 AM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukem88 (Post 156609)
They want to delay everything till they diminish the Democratic number in the senate.

This won't happen. More dems will be added in this election in Congress.

M42 04-27-2010 12:13 AM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 156610)
This won't happen. More dems will be added in this election in Congress.

Chances of that happening are slim to none

Plus have a look at
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=114316346

DA User 04-27-2010 12:24 AM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M42 (Post 156611)
Chances of that happening are slim to none

Plus have a look at
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=114316346

Obama had his Democrats passed the HCR. This is enough to more Dems on board.

M42 04-27-2010 12:27 AM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 156615)
Obama had his Democrats passed the HCR. This is enough to more Dems on board.

or get themselves voted out

DA User 04-27-2010 12:27 AM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M42 (Post 156611)
Chances of that happening are slim to none

Plus have a look at
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=114316346

Thats the past. Obama is a unique president who has the power to get Dems on board!

Eddy117 04-27-2010 01:00 AM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
DA User, have you no sense of historical trends? The Dems will take a hit this November; the typical American voter, specially those on the Right, are imbeciles-no matter what good the Dems have done, they'll still take a hit. Democrats will have a majority in the Senate and the House, but nowhere near the numbers they had in late 2008. If anything, this will make sure that Democratic legislative efforts will completely tank.

Everyone else complaining about waiting until the lame-duck session: Why are you complaining?? I'm sure i'm not the only one waiting for CIR or the Dream Act to pass; heck, I've been living like this for 18 years. I've put my life on hold for a couple of years now as I'm sure many of you have, but jumping to the point of calling Graham gay or bashing Climate Change just because it doesn't fit our agenda. In the eyes of the American people, we're of little to no importance, i've come to terms with that...with that said, I understand that CIR isn't the top priority of this nation; so I honestly see why immigration reform is on the backburner. If you don't want to wait, fine, walk away...if you want to wait then sit tight. It's bound to happen one way or another, perhaps not a sweeping bill like the '85 amnesty, but something will pass. Getting all ill-tempered about it isn't going to do us any good.

DA User 04-27-2010 01:07 AM

Re: Graham Quits Climate Talks, Demands Immigration Bill Halt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy117 (Post 156635)
DA User, have you no sense of historical trends? The Dems will take a hit this November; the typical American voter, specially those on the Right, are imbeciles-no matter what good the Dems have done, they'll still take a hit. Democrats will have a majority in the Senate and the House, but nowhere near the numbers they had in late 2008. If anything, this will make sure that Democratic legislative efforts will completely tank.

Everyone else complaining about waiting until the lame-duck session: Why are you complaining?? I'm sure i'm not the only one waiting for CIR or the Dream Act to pass; heck, I've been living like this for 18 years. I've put my life on hold for a couple of years now as I'm sure many of you have, but jumping to the point of calling Graham gay or bashing Climate Change just because it doesn't fit our agenda. In the eyes of the American people, we're of little to no importance, i've come to terms with that...with that said, I understand that CIR isn't the top priority of this nation; so I honestly see why immigration reform is on the backburner. If you don't want to wait, fine, walk away...if you want to wait then sit tight. It's bound to happen one way or another, perhaps not a sweeping bill like the '85 amnesty, but something will pass. Getting all ill-tempered about it isn't going to do us any good.

Democrats were losing momentum before the HCR. Democrats are very much in control. You stated that Dems will take majority and that was my point. Either way we have bi-partisan support on CIR/DREAM Act.


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