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SuperGSPorty 04-29-2010 11:49 PM

Re: Obama takes immigration reform off agenda
 
Im glad this is old info that came out before the bill started circulated. But still it will be tough to pass.

ppl_man 05-01-2010 11:25 PM

Re: Obama takes immigration reform off agenda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukem88 (Post 157134)
Its not baloney its what they are all saying, Reid is the only asshole who's still giving us false hope. Their real plan is to have hell before they fix anything. Texas, Iowa, Minnesota, etc. racist states want that damn Arizona bill in their states. I think their real plan is to really deport as many as possible before they give "amnesty". I predict nothing will happen until the November elections are done with, Climate is passed, Border bills are moved forward and until there's enough states doing what Arizona is doing, for them to say "alright we diminished the illegal numbers and secured the borders, now let's give them the hardest path to citizenship as possible". Fucking SHENANIGANS! I say.

Not. Both were giving false hope. In fact, everyone.

He had been on medium many times telling people that he would make this stick this his agenda for 2010. He was in office since 2009. I don't blame first year since it was a mess. I don't blame him for 2010 because it was also a mess. But I blamed him not moving this before the election. I can't wait dude.

I have talent, but I can't make money with it. I can't even work for on-campus organizations that pay for tutoring. I have talent, but I am simply one of the many unfortunate kids here.

FUCK THIS ASS HOLE

ECL23 05-01-2010 11:41 PM

Re: Obama takes immigration reform off agenda
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 157141)

for fucks sake, how about we start our ntwr (no taxation w/o representation) party and threaten mutiny like the goddamn tea baggers? because sadly without violence and guns nobody gives a shit about u

You know the funny thing is, during the civil movement there was both violance and peace in order for people to realize the problem.

I'm not suggesting anything but Malcom X enforced violence while MLK was the peace maker (someone who wanted to calmly protest)

ppl_man 05-01-2010 11:45 PM

Re: Obama takes immigration reform off agenda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukem88 (Post 157134)
Its not baloney its what they are all saying, Reid is the only asshole who's still giving us false hope. Their real plan is to have hell before they fix anything. Texas, Iowa, Minnesota, etc. racist states want that damn Arizona bill in their states. I think their real plan is to really deport as many as possible before they give "amnesty". I predict nothing will happen until the November elections are done with, Climate is passed, Border bills are moved forward and until there's enough states doing what Arizona is doing, for them to say "alright we diminished the illegal numbers and secured the borders, now let's give them the hardest path to citizenship as possible". Fucking SHENANIGANS! I say.

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Originally Posted by ECL23 (Post 157418)
You know the funny thing is, during the civil movement there was both violance and peace in order for people to realize the problem.

I'm not suggesting anything but Malcom X enforced violence while MLK was the peace maker (someone who wanted to calmly protest)

Well. The civil movement is totally a different case than immigration reform. The biggest difference is that the civil movement is taking about injustice to the people of America who are African American.

The immigration right now is usually dealing with the undocumented situation. Bear it. I am not welcome this country, but I was here since I was a kid.

So violence will only make things worse. So please think about the difference.

YesWeCan 05-01-2010 11:48 PM

Re: Obama takes immigration reform off agenda
 
Well whoever runs in 2012 should have the slogan:

"Hey, at least I'm not Obama."

ECL23 05-02-2010 12:03 AM

Re: Obama takes immigration reform off agenda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ppl_man (Post 157420)
Well. The civil movement is totally a different case than immigration reform. The biggest difference is that the civil movement is taking about injustice to the people of America who are African American.

The immigration right now is usually dealing with the undocumented situation. Bear it. I am not welcome this country, but I was here since I was a kid.

So violence will only make things worse. So please think about the difference.

Although these were Americans; what the main issue here is not about whether a person is documented or not it is about human rights. Which is what the civil rights movement was about. Having equality amongst the race. As undocumented immigrants we ask to be treated like humans not like animals that will merely be packed and shipped. We are demanding equality amongst humans.

We are fighting because no one can truly claim land and only select whoever we want to be in it. Only humans have designed this stupid system!

You're right violence will make it worse and I'm not advocating that. I was expressing movements that occured in the past (aka history).


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