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Rody 12-19-2010 03:42 PM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
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Originally Posted by Revolutionary Mind (Post 200498)
No but what we can do is urge the minority community and remind them that their vote is powerful. We must be thoughtful and logical about all aspects of politics now if we want our voice to be heard. We have Univision, Durbin, and many Democrats on our side. What the fuck are we waiting for? Protest, become community leaders, together we can have a full-strength force.

you do know that it is over right, no more majority and Congress is lazy anyways, so there is no chance that they will put Dream Act for voting again before January 1st

Demise 12-19-2010 11:53 PM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
We should do the french way. Start riots and set the streets aflame, maybe then they will finally do something.

Rody 12-20-2010 12:45 AM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 200785)
We should do the french way. Start riots and set the streets aflame, maybe then they will finally do something.

Hell it works in Europe, why can't it work here.

pimentel2 12-20-2010 03:58 PM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
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Originally Posted by Rody (Post 200813)
Hell it works in Europe, why can't it work here.

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 200785)
We should do the french way. Start riots and set the streets aflame, maybe then they will finally do something.

Now now, we don't want to give them anymore excuses to deport us, right? It'll work, but I think the peaceful approach would be a better option ;)

pimentel2 12-21-2010 08:14 PM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
There are several threads at the moment about action. This is what we need. We need to act. Now. Once the DA is passed, I will also fight for CIR, to end this vicious cycle.

Rody 12-22-2010 01:11 PM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
the thing is you guys are working in your jobs (illegally but still) but I live in SC and here it is hard as hell for someone like us to get a job (if you WERE in one you're fine somewhat) and I do not feel like working in construction/washing dishes and other "common" immigrant jobs, I finished High school with honors and all the high grades, and I see it as an embarrassment to myself for me to work in such low jobs

pimentel2 12-22-2010 04:13 PM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
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Originally Posted by Rody (Post 201813)
the thing is you guys are working in your jobs (illegally but still) but I live in SC and here it is hard as hell for someone like us to get a job (if you WERE in one you're fine somewhat) and I do not feel like working in construction/washing dishes and other "common" immigrant jobs, I finished High school with honors and all the high grades, and I see it as an embarrassment to myself for me to work in such low jobs

Hey Rody, I'm only 14, so I don't work. My dad owns his own construction business for over 10 years.

It is an embarrassment, thus we must fight for our common rights. We may be here illegally, but through no choice of our own. And no, being in a place is not "stealing", unless you are using services without paying for them via taxes.

TIKVA 12-23-2010 09:24 AM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
You are your own worst enemy if you continue to think you are here illegally. Explain to me exactly what law you broke that makes you illegal? Not having a DL or a SSN does not make one illegal. It is the USA that is denying you these documents.

Rody 12-23-2010 01:49 PM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
Hell I don't pay taxes, and I feel good about it.

What do we learn in US History, back in the Founding Fathers day - no taxation without representation.

Well guess what, we immigrants can pay taxes, but can't get gov't benefits to our family, such as medicaid/medicare, food stamp, welfare and etc.

Hell we even can't get a Driver's License (and we still have to pay vehicle tax - can't out run that one)

We are humiliated on a daily basis, because we don't have the certain documents, hell we can't even cash a check without the bank teller looking at me funny because when she asked for my driver's license, I gave her my passport (my visa is good until 2011, but it is a tourist visa, and I am here since 2001)

I hate seeing my dad, work for the same american boss, and make the same shity wage he made 6 years ago when he started and he works like a madman in the factory, while the 2nd worker - an American, takes smoking breaks, slouches around, leaves 1hr before closing time, and makes more.

Stupid crap like this, is what makes me hate this country, where they want us to live the "american way" while at the same time forcing us to live "the humiliating way"

and calling one self illegal or not, doesn't make a difference, we all know that we are here and with our hands tied because we have no SSN (which is basically all you need here, with a SSN you can do anything)

pimentel2 12-23-2010 04:25 PM

Re: Plan B - Forget the politicians. It's our turn now.
 
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Originally Posted by TIKVA (Post 202170)
You are your own worst enemy if you continue to think you are here illegally. Explain to me exactly what law you broke that makes you illegal? Not having a DL or a SSN does not make one illegal. It is the USA that is denying you these documents.

Very well said. I didn't break a single law.


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