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DA User 11-27-2011 03:46 PM

Re: Important: More on Newt's Red Card Idea (a stupid idea)
 
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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 239866)
It may be "better than nothing" but it is a mediocre idea that would put us in an endless loop of inferiority and second class citizenship, when we are worth much more considering our skill levels and brainpower.

If we fall for the first mediocre offer that politicians (who change their minds very frequently), throw out there just because "it's something," then we'll always fall short in life, and that's truly a shame.

Dream Act/CIR is bound to pass someday so Dreamers can actually use the Red Card until DA/CIR passes.

2Face 11-27-2011 05:30 PM

Re: Important: More on Newt's Red Card Idea (a stupid idea)
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 239918)
Dream Act/CIR is bound to pass someday so Dreamers can actually use the Red Card until DA/CIR passes.

ROFLLLL that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in my life. Red Card??? WTF is that all about. This is not a football game. It's real life where people commit suicide because they can't take it anymore unfortunately. Don't let others do the thinking for you man. These clowns are just trying to win an election and then the circus will ensue when they get into power.

waterwise12 11-28-2011 05:32 PM

Re: Important: More on Newt's Red Card Idea (a stupid idea)
 
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Originally Posted by CB124 (Post 239787)
So, if given the choice between this and ten more years of absolutely nothing, you guys would vote for nothing correct

You only have one life to live. Imagine living your ENTIRE life as a second class citizen. If given the chance for a work permit with no chance of citizenship or voting I would also refuse. How would you feel your entire life knowing you are one step lower than everyone else?
Remember when blacks were counted as 3/5'th of a person. They didn't say, "Oh, thank you. This is better than nothing". They said, "Fuck you, we want full rights".

DA User 11-29-2011 04:07 AM

Re: Important: More on Newt's Red Card Idea (a stupid idea)
 
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 239923)
ROFLLLL that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in my life. Red Card??? WTF is that all about. This is not a football game. It's real life where people commit suicide because they can't take it anymore unfortunately. Don't let others do the thinking for you man. These clowns are just trying to win an election and then the circus will ensue when they get into power.


Red Card is better then undocumented.

Well, we do have a Green Card. We could also have a Yellow card.

Maybe a path to Green Card from the Red Card. At least Newt wants to legalize the undocumented.

DA User 11-29-2011 04:09 AM

Re: Important: More on Newt's Red Card Idea (a stupid idea)
 
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Originally Posted by waterwise12 (Post 239981)
You only have one life to live. Imagine living your ENTIRE life as a second class citizen. If given the chance for a work permit with no chance of citizenship or voting I would also refuse. How would you feel your entire life knowing you are one step lower than everyone else?
Remember when blacks were counted as 3/5'th of a person. They didn't say, "Oh, thank you. This is better than nothing". They said, "Fuck you, we want full rights".

First, second and third class citizen is just a label to me.

A work permit is better then nothing.

Lower in what sense? You could become a successful and a multi-millionaire someday with a work permit.


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