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undoconyc 07-13-2017 09:17 AM
Re: Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration
 
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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 618380)
Attach RACA to that shit and pass it!
That's been tried many times with the DREAM Act. In the past they would attach it to a must pass budget measure. Numbers USA would get involved and it would be removed. They have people on their staff who's job it is to spot "attached" legislation.

eRkah 07-13-2017 09:44 AM
Re: Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration
 
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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 618428)
That scenario isn't going to happen!
The concern is that if those republican AGs do end up suing the administration over DACA, they will likely do so in a federal circuit that they know will have an anti-immigration judge (they've done it many times with pro-life, etc), and who may decide to put a hold on DACA until it is argued in court. There's no way to know of course but they've done similar things in the past (DAPA)

eRkah 07-13-2017 09:50 AM
Re: Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration
 
duplicate

2MoreYears 07-13-2017 09:52 AM
Re: Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration
 
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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 618427)
Question, so after DACA is put on hold by the courts. How soon can we expect for ICE to start apprehending dreamers, unlikely that it will be en mass, but people will start getting caught.

They will have all our info, so we are the easiest targets, plus, they know that our parents are likely illegal as well.
ICE doesn't have our info. USCIS does.

AFIK

JohannBernoulli1667 07-13-2017 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 618445)
ICE doesn't have our info. USCIS does.

AFIK
Yes, but once DACA ends, there is a transfer of information from USCIS, over to ICE.

Swim19 07-13-2017 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 618446)
Yes, but once DACA ends, there is a transfer of information from USCIS, over to ICE.
Where does it say that? I don't believe that is automatic. Of course, they could decide to transfer it over, but as far as I know it is not automatic.

IamAman 07-13-2017 10:11 AM
Re: Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration
 
This is NOT good. A lot of people on here have somehow convinced themselves that if Trump passes harsh anti-immigration laws that affect OTHER PEOPLE, then he will somehow show his heart and pass a law that will help THEM. That is a foolish thought.

If anything, it will embolden him and create an even more anti-immigration climate. And if you think this wouldn't affect you, think again. Even if your foolish theory is correct that this might lead into something more substantial for Dreamers, it also will mean that you will not be able to help your family members in the future.

Don't ever negotiate against yourself. It's crazy to already want to offer everything to Republicans in exchange for what MIGHT happen.

Got_Daca 07-13-2017 12:01 PM
Re: Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration
 
This is good if it ends up being conducive to passing of DACA legislation.

LiveUnited 07-13-2017 12:01 PM
Re: Trump crafting plan to slash legal immigration
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 618450)
This is NOT good. A lot of people on here have somehow convinced themselves that if Trump passes harsh anti-immigration laws that affect OTHER PEOPLE, then he will somehow show his heart and pass a law that will help THEM. That is a foolish thought.

If anything, it will embolden him and create an even more anti-immigration climate. And if you think this wouldn't affect you, think again. Even if your foolish theory is correct that this might lead into something more substantial for Dreamers, it also will mean that you will not be able to help your family members in the future.

Don't ever negotiate against yourself. It's crazy to already want to offer everything to Republicans in exchange for what MIGHT happen.
IamAman You're so right! I couldn't have said it better. "Fuck everyone else as long as I get papers" mentality is absurd.

Got_Daca 07-13-2017 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveUnited (Post 618471)
IamAman You're so right! I couldn't have said it better. "Fuck everyone else as long as I get papers" mentality is absurd.
Gotta start living with reality.

There will never be a mass amnesty.

Best we can hope for is DACA legislation.

This "amnesty for all or nada" mentality is major hurdle standing on the way of DACA legislation.


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