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dreamer12345 09-18-2017 12:39 AM

Re: Cotton: Trump called me to say there is no deal on DACA
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 640680)
The deal is DA + Raise because Raise addresses, or tries to address, the problem that created the need to have DA in the first place.

Some of GOP has a point. DA solves a problem. But there is no guarantee that in 20 more years, there wont be people in limbo like us.

We are too blinded by our desire to pass DA that we dont even want to discuss what might happen in the future.

DA as it stands now does not address the problem of what if the same situation happens in 10 or 20 years.

To really try to solve this issue is to prevent same predicament happening again. It is a prudent move from GOP.

I dont see any bill other than Raise that tries to address it.

DA + RAISE only makes sense if future dreamers are covered in perpetuity.

fl_dreamer 09-18-2017 12:50 AM

Re: Cotton: Trump called me to say there is no deal on DACA
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 640680)

Some of GOP has a point. DA solves a problem. But there is no guarantee that in 20 more years, there wont be people in limbo like us.

We are too blinded by our desire to pass DA that we dont even want to discuss what might happen in the future.

DA as it stands now does not address the problem of what if the same situation happens in 10 or 20 years.

Circumstances were different when most of us moved here 20+ years ago. If people move to the US illegally now knowing the political climate, that is on them. I know it sounds rough but they have to draw the line somewhere!!

Laterlater 09-18-2017 02:46 PM

Re: Cotton: Trump called me to say there is no deal on DACA
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 640680)
The deal is DA + Raise because Raise addresses, or tries to address, the problem that created the need to have DA in the first place.

No. It doesn't.

You should try reading the thing you so frequently advocate.

The express and exclusive purpose of the RAISE Act is to cut legal immigration by upward to a half. It specifically aims to eliminate family immigration categories, refugee admission, employee ability to hire high-skilled workers, and overall reduce legal immigration levels, touting itself as point-based system akin to Canada and Australia .

Of course, in usual character, to call it so would be a gross misrepresentation of the above two countries immigration systems: the bill’s goal is to significantly reduce legal immigration, whereas the purpose of Canadian and Australian immigration policies is to attract immigrants.

Their is a reason why it only has two co-sponsors (the very two that wrote it).

I can go on enumerating all the flaws; the principle point being that it does nothing to curtail illegal immigration, by design and intent.

That is not what it was written for - not even the authors of the bill claim it would - in sort, no sentient being in the land but you are of that view. Most of us arrived here either without EWI or are visa overstays, it does nothing about those two categories.

Even conservative groups such as The National Immigration Forum, National Foundation for American Policy, and the Cato Institute are deeply antagonistic to it.

http://immigrationforum.org/wp-conte...NFAP-FINAL.pdf

https://www.cato.org/blog/raise-act-...-are-deceptive

I would even venture to call it a poison pill to Dream Act.

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Originally Posted by Got_Daca;640680We are too blinded by our desire to pass DA that we dont even want to discuss what might happen in the future.
I dont see any bill other than Raise that tries to address it.

Your clearly not trying. Your supposed fixation on the RAISE Act is as baseless as it as irrational. One might say the same to you, that bit about being blinded by one's desire to pass DA.

Read the damn thing:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...-bill/354/text


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